Ernest Dempsey — Think of pit bulls and the injustice done to them keeps pouring in from all around. A new case in Austin, Texas, caused the murdered of not one but three pit bulls of the same family; their crime being defending themselves against a loose dog that attacked them in a park.
Leo, Dawn and Gorgo – victims of Austin City
As the story goes, the three dogs, belonging to one Christopher Joseph Grant, were taken to a park in Austin on September 6th for a training session by the owner. While the dogs – named Leo, Dawn, and Gorgo – were properly harnessed and leashed, trouble arrived when a dog, a terrier mix, that had gone off-leash, ran into the pit bulls, attacking them. As the pit bulls fought in self-defense, Grant says he found the owner of the loose dog kicking and punching the pit bulls; then tying Dawn, one of the pit bulls to a tree and beating her without trying to control his dog.
When the police arrived on the scene with an ambulance, Grant lay on the ground having an asthma attack while he had secured his pit bulls and the other person had also got his dog under control. But then, as happens in cases involving pit bulls, the animal control got to the pit bulls to seize them for being “off the leash” but when corrected by Grant, he said he would take them anyway. The pit bulls were taken to the City of Austin Animal Control while the loose dog attacking them and also biting Grant went home without getting a state-required quarantine for a week until Grant requested it.
According to Grant, he was told that the report of his bite by the off-leash dog was “lost” while there is a witness whose statement on record proves that the owner of the terrier mix was not bitten during the incident by any of the pit bulls. Grant tells he was not allowed to see his dogs since visiting them once at the shelter for a few minutes where Chris Noble, Deputy Chief Animal Control, told him “never to return to the property”. He says it was embarrassing to be mocked by the animal control staff for crying about his dogs and even accused of having “potentially dangerous items” in the donation bag he offered the Austin Animal Center.
The worst of all of course came when Leo, Dawn, and Gorgo were sentenced to death by a judge who heard the case and ignored all evidence supporting the harmlessness of the dogs as well ignoring the lack of evidence proving them dangerous. Being pit bulls accused of attack was considered enough to order the execution of the dogs who were well-trained, happy and peaceful family pets – two of them even certified NSAR emotional support animals. Defending themselves against an attack was all these dogs did. In the breedist context, this has been reckoned as crime. And for this, the animal control rushed on to execute them almost immediately after the judge’s decision. Like in many other cases, judicial justice in this case itself became a mockery of the word, leaving the owner devastated and animal right advocates shocked.
Feelings of helplessness always follow such cases of open victimization by the authorities since people knock on their doors when seeking justice; but where do you go when the final blow is made by those paid from people’s tax money to ruin the lives of citizens. Leo, Dawn, and Gorgo never got a fair trial; they were harmless; they were family. So why the murder?
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For updates on the case, visit the support page for the dogs on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/SaveLeoDawnAndGorgo?fref=ts.
I am so devastated by this. Those dogs were not given a fair, objective chance. They were loved and part of a family. It’s barbaric what is happening to this breed which used to be looked apon as a “nanny dog” in the Victorian era.
Vote the Judge out of office next election!
Fire him now!!!
No one in their right mind would believe this absurd story. This entire tale was made up by the irresponsible pit bull owner. Go back and actually READ what it says. If Grant’s pit bulls were under his control, then how did he “find” the owner of the terrier, “kicking and punching” his land-sharks and actually tying one to a tree? Where did he have to go to “find” them? Why didn’t he have hold of their leashes? Answer: Because they were running loose! The pit bulls were NOT under their owners’ control, the pit bulls started the fight, the owner of the other dog involved NEVER tied one of the pit bulls to a tree because he was scared to death of them, and the so-called “witness” is a figment of Grant’s imagination! The only problem I have with what happened is that police didn’t waste those three monsters on the spot! Grant could not control his land-sharks and now he’s playing the sympathy card and to that, I say, Well, Boo-Hoo!
And as for dogs being give a “fair, objective” chance. They’re DOGS! Do we give cows, pigs, chickens, etc. a “fair, objective chance” at the slaughter house? Well, dogs are no different than those animals. Actually, I take that back, cows, pigs and chickens — unlike dogs — are natural creatures and actually serve a purpose?
Carlisle Hall, you are an idiot. You comment demonstrates an ignorance that is only outweighed by your lack of understanding.
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Seriously? Have you ever tried to hold three leashed dogs while they are being attacked by a loose dog? if the pit bulls were loose, how could the other owner tie it up! obviously in the mayhem created by the irresponsible terrier owner, a pit bull got away form the owner, still leashed! dah! As for the rest of your post, not worth commenting on, you are very ignorant. Have you ever met a pit bull? no, just read the
media hype, it shows. If you only know what you read, you don’t know much at all!
sorry, but i can’t help this…you are an ass. you speak from ignorance and will be judged by a power higher than that so called judge.
so, it comes to light that Chris Grant was breeding his pitties, testified in court that his males were not leashed and most likely the female was in heat. All of you saying the dog that was not leashed just got to go home..wrong! That dog was taken for emergency treatment. Ernest Dempsey..I so admired your writings about Lennox. I am bitterly disappointed in you and social media for taking the side of an irresponsible owner, Chris Grant, in this entire fiasco. As a pittie rescuer for the last 15 years, I cant believe the hysteria and unproven facts lead to this attack on one of the pit friendliest cities in the us. Changed my whole opionion about social media…
Molly, I must make myself clear on this: I DO NOT write about issues to get into people’s good or bad books. I write what I feel I should write.
And while you or others are free to make this incident an owner vs owner matter, I hold my stance that these accidents happen – even children hurt children and adults near fatally. But you don’t kill kids for hurting each other. My point is crystal clear: why were the dogs immmediatley killed after the judge’s order without a right to appeal. And since you mentioned Chris – who I don’t know personally – let me ask you: the other owner (who I also also don’t know) did admit that his dog was not on leash. have you ever asked Why? Why are you not asking this and raising a point a Chris? Simply because he had the “vicious” breed?
I think this case pretty much does away with the Pit Bull Friendly image of this city – thanks to the animal control and senseless judges. Now Austin has made history and what kind of history they are making is right before us.
This makes me so angry; I wonder if the judge would have given the same sentence to a pack of chihuahua’s that bit a man and his dog with the exact same scenario? Very doubtful. I’ll bet any money, she would have been more willing to take a lot more time to take ALL the evidence into account before making such a harsh ruling. I feel in my heart this isn’t going to end well for Austin. I hope there’s justice for those sweet babies and for all the future victims out there. It’s just a shame these guys had to lose their lives this way ;(
This judge needs to be punished for such a reckless ignorant decision along with the deputy chief animal control Chris Noble. God will know what they have done. Murdering helpless innocent furry family members. They should be very ashamed and have nightmares forever.
***** Hell!?!! When are ignorant ass people going to wake the **** up!?! This mass genocide has got to ****ing stop. ****ing bullshit media and weak ass justice system and complete oh **** it!!!! Im so mad I cant even see straight.
I hope the Lennox community and other dog lovers of the world rally an email/snail mail/protest campaign on this shit that these people will NEVER make such thoughtless careless ASININE mistakes every again.
My heart goes out to the family of these amazing animals….the devastating pain of losing your beloved dog to old age is bad enough. I cannot even imagine the devastation of something like this.
I hope the people who brought this pain on this family have it come back to them – tenfold.
RIP Leo, Dawn and Gorgo… Im sorry humanity failed you.
Sickening to think they didn’t care a guy causing animal abuse n having a vicious dog offlead was more important than 3 dogs PROTECTING themselves n their owner from this evil attack just because of their breed!!! the law needs to change before they ruin the bond between humans n dogs across the world dogs are not evil people are!!
We do send emails, snail mail, make phone calls, advertise safe handling and training, advocate for safe homes, and advocate for these pups constantly.
Unfortunately, they fall on deaf ears. People want to believe what they hear on the news and don’t want to change. Why? Because they don’t want to be wrong. They don’t want their thinking to be proven wrong. So they blind themselves and ignore facts and make fatal mistakes like this. As a Pit Bull rescuer, I see this stuff day in and day out. It sickens me, which is why I choose to rescue them. I couldn’t imagine anyone coming into my home and telling me I can’t have my pure bred pit anymore just because someone is ignorantly fearful.
This is so heartbreaking. I pray that justice will be served. Rest in peace beautiful babies. You are loved by many.
I can’t imagine the pain you are feeling, Mr. Grant. It is indefensible and heartbreaking that three beautiful dogs, two of them service animals, were senselessly murdered by the “state” for what?…..for being a certain breed of dog, a breed that in the past was considered one of the best around children, indeed, Petey, of Little Rascals fame, was one. I think, as asinine and heartless as this judge was, even he would not have been safe, and the cries of all who loved him would have fallen on deaf ears. What has happened to our humanity and decency in this country? I fear the ever increasing encroachment of “government” tyranny into our everyday life. RIP, sweet doggies. It wasn’t your fault.
IT IS TIME FOR THIS TYPE OF OCCURRENCE TO STOP! MR. GRANT, GET A LAWYER AND I’M SURE THERE WILL BE MANY THAT WILL HANDLE THIS CASE FOR FREE BECAUSE OF THE PUBLICITY THAT IT WILL GENERATE. IT IS TIME TO START HOLDING NOT ONLY IGNORANT PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE BUT THE JUSTICE SYSTEM ALSO, REMEMBER, IT IS AN ELECTION YEAR!!!!!!!!
Great, we’ve become the new Belfast: ignorant officials and their dog-killing Nazi laws.
We need to tell these “public office” representatives that we don’t want our tax money going to fatten titled idiots whose only accomplishments seem to be those of making disastrous decisions in every sector and become a huge embarrassment to this nation. Forget the titles, they are civil servants, OUR servants, and we need to remind them of our rights while we still can.
What judge ordered the destruction!?
This judge should be thrown off the bench. All the evidence proved the dogs were protecting themselves. This is appalling and proves the justice system does not work. Sorry little babies. Humans failed you.
The Lexus Project will pursue further action on this case…there was no opportunity to pursue an appeal…
A new chip in will be posted so that legal fees and expenses can be covered…please donate to help pursue this injustice…
This holocaust must end…
This is heartbreaking. My thoughts and prayers go out to there owner. I hope the judge loses his job and the animal control gets fined for this. They gave them no chance due to there breed.
Mr Grant, my heart cries for what you and your babies had to go through. I wish I had the power to have prevented their murders,but alas. May you find Peace in the Love you shared and know,their souls and yours will Always remain connected. Untill you meet up again. Light to you from South Africa
According to this jerkoffs LinkedIn profile, he’s a retired APD officer who spent 28 years on the force. He’s only been on the job since July!!! He doesn’t care about animals, this is just a job and something to do after retirement.
Why did’nt he take up train spotting instead …preferably from the tracks!!!Sorry but I’m furious… when will this madness end?????????
These poor animals should not have been executed until the appeal time lapsed. I feel certain that an appeallate court would have overturned this decision or at least, given an injuction until the matter could be heard more fully. What an injustice to the animals and a slap on the face to Lady Justice. In this case, she was not blind; all she saw was a breed that society has deemed “dangerous.” My heart aches at the culture we have developed and the society we have become!
As to the judge, he was probably a municipal judge and typically, all that is required to be one is a law degree and a contract with that municipality.
What an ignorant judge! Boot him out!!! Very very prejudice! Would hate to be on trail while this judge is still in office. I believe he is a hater.
These poor dogs had no chance
( R.I.P. Babies xx
Fact- checking—let’s keep emotions out of this.
I wasn’t there, Neither were you. One source conflicts with the information here…regarding the breed of the other dog. I am sad for this to happen. But I am not so eager to jump on the bandwagon of BLAME.
Questions of concern for me as an owner of a medically-necessary service dog…one of them.
NSAR is only a registry for money – it means nothing other than a person paid money for the registration.
Everyone in public must know that EVERY dog is a potential danger to themselves and others.
Everyone needs to control their dogs in public. If you have a pack of dogs that do not “OFF” on cue, then perhaps you need to stay in your back yard to “Train” your dogs. Dogs are off-leash in parks- sad reality.
I don’t like the idea of a person claiming a dog is a SERVICE DOG when it is IN TRAINING and doesn’t have the same privileges as a fully trained dog. I would not put my trained Service Dog at risk in a public park.
These dogs must also pass tests for aggression. ADA sets forth rights for the treatment of Service dogs. So where do you get this information?
There is no standard in the ADA requiring aggression testing or any certification at all!! Its a good idea to have a professionally trained, canine good citizen certified animal for service…but no requirement!
thanks for info…What’s the point of em being certified if it doesn’t mean anything????? Just a way of sucking money outta people for nothing????
The ‘fact check’ is that 3 dogs were murdered for defending themselves. They weren’t given a chance. If an owner wants to ‘train’ his dogs in a dog park, then so be it. Just because you wouldn’t doesn’t make him wrong in his decision to. And if someone was attacking you, would you “OFF” and let them continue attacking you or would you defend yourself as everything has a right to? Leave emotions out of it? Really?? Anyone who is able to leave emotions out of it are heartless beings.
Very well said Christy.Truly heartless outlook.I was shocked and sickened by this judge’s decision.How can you have evidence and a witness to something and not have that speak volumns.He should have the shortest career on the bench on record.Voted in can also be voted out.Poor dogs,ignorant judge.
Well said. This loss of life is disgusting. These dogs did nothing wrong and niether did the owner.
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This was the only dog of the four that was harmed. It doesn’t seem the other three were defending themselves, it looks like they were just attacking this dog.
You want “Fact Checking”? The 2 dogs were already NSAR dogs. Fact two, the owner of the loose dog was not bitten or harmed in any way. Fact three, the owner of the 3 pits was in fact having an asthma attack AND was bitten by loose dog and was IGNORED when help arrived. Fact four, these dogs had a right for appeal. Fact five, all 3 pits were leashed. As a matter of fact, one was handed over to the owner of loose dog while the pits’ owner tried to save his pit from the attacking dog. Fact six, the owner of the loose dog kicked and punched said dogs with no provocation. Fact seven, there were witnesses to this tragedy, backing up the pits’ owner’s story. (If you bothered to read HIS story, on another site) By the time police/ambulance arrived, all three pits were back in the car, still harnassed and leashed. The sole reason for this is that they were pitbulls. Don’t want to jump on the bandwagon of BLAME? There is plenty of it, especially animal control AND the judge. Know your facts before presenting your comment.
Well said!! There has to be some recourse against the court and animal control. Take these idiots to court and fight for the rights that were taken away from Mr Grant and his beauitful babies!!!
There is too much hysteria around Bull Breeds we should be looking at the deed not the breed and the simple FACT is these dogs were innocent of any wrong doing!!
I am ashamed that our world has come to this. Often theses “bully” breeds are gentle, it is when they have to defend, they become powerful, and rightfully so. All breeds have bitten someone, so do we eradicate them all? Then I am guessing hamsters, rabbits, parrots, ferrets, and reptiles are next. When do we start to hold people accountable for their poor actions? There are morons out there that look for an excuse to eradicate breeds. This man was one of them. If his dog attacked another terrier, it would not be news, but because their jaws are stronger, they are not supposed to fight back? When someone attacks you and you are clearly more dominate, does that stop you from fighting back? HELL no! PEOPLE wake up and use some of the brain cells that still function and be responsible for your actions. The judge and the man that continued to physically strike instead of collecting his animal should be ashamed to be part of the human race. It was obvious he wanted to get the pits in trouble by provoking. Where are the laws here? Off leash when not in enclosed park, animal cruelty to Dawn, and even his own dog since he did not interfere when the attack was occurring, failing to control his animal, and lets not forget failing to control himself. Animal control you should be ashamed!! You are there to protect animals, not destroy without just cause YOU FAILED!!
In the state of Texas there is no appeal in a case like this. Oh, and did anyone mention that these dogs had previously attacked someone and bitten the persons ear off? And, fyi, there was no other dog involved in that incident. And as for your “fact” about the “owner of the loose dog”…he was IN FACT bitten several times by the 3 dogs. That FACT is why the dogs were taken for the rabies observation that is required by state law.
This point is now moot…Now it’s a matter if civil right’s violation. Scary if folks can’t appeal, Glad I don’t live there. And if you are getting your facts from the one’s that murdered them…those facts are stated to sway people to their side and I have serious doubts about them. So what difference does all that make now? They already been murdered….Now since there is no right to appeal in Austin, is there a Right to Due Process?
You say dog enthusiast, I say idiot!
THE AVERAGE CITIZEN CAN NO LONGER HOPE TO FIND JUSTICE IN THIS COUNTRY AND ESPECIALLY IN AUSTIN TEXAS: Turns out the so called recognized victim of the unleashed dog, is said to allegedly be friends with the judge and other members of the legal system, that ordered the murder of the dogs. This reeks of the stench of corruption, conflict of interest, among other despicable abuses of power that the tax payers pay the salaries for these people to give special treatment to their own friends? I hope this is not so for if it is, for the average citizen like most of us can never hope to find justice in this country, especially in Austin Texas.
so lets blame the pitbulls for their own demise? People in this country need to wake up. A small dog can be just as nasty as any other dog. Emotions do run high when this type of injustice happens.
Just in a scenario like this with my mastiffs. little dog got off his leash and confronted them. although everyone agreed it wasn’t my fault, there was still some lady calling the cops. we left the scene. I felt terrible but there was no way my dogs were going to take the fall for the other person’s negligence.
I don’t blame you in the slightest. I keep reading these awful cases – and I worry tremendously about my grand-dog the German Shepherd, slightly less for the Golden Retriever – but hey, there are a couple of incarcerated Newfoundlands!! right now.
Hasty, hasty decision and grossly unfair to the pits. We are a knee jerk society…across the board. I am very careful with my pits as to where they go as you can see even abiding the leash laws of Austin did not serve them. Mr. Grant, I am terribly sorry for your loss, terribly sorry. I am still shaking my head. Everywhere I go to train and socialize any dog, I am met with an uninformed pet parent who wants their dog to be “free,”, well train them, don’t turn them loose, their is a reason for leashes in public. I cannot tell you the how upset folks get when I stand up for my dogs and ask the offending handler to please get your dog…accountability what a concept.
I can’t believe that those poor, harmless little babies we’re sentenced to death. All because some jerk didn’t want to take the time to get the facts straight because they we’re pitbulls. I think they should take the other guys dog too. Goodness this makes me so mad! My heart goes out to the owner of those beautiful babies<3 God will punish them for doing those innocent creatures harm .
This is so hesrbreaking to me having a pitbull of my own, i would be in jail right now. Im in tears hearing this. They didnt stand a chance. God will handle this. It cant bring them gorgous dogs back. Whst goes around comes sriund. The judge the ac officer and the man with the loose dog. What can we do as pit bull owners and angry citizens do to let austin know how cruel that was and bring pressure to them. Chris my heart goes out to u and ur family
I’m sickened. This destruction is caused by fear and arrogance. People are just, horrible animals.
Thank you for writing such an enlightening article on Chris’s babies… The city of Austin should be ashamed of themselves for acting like they did. I hope thy get HELL to pay for this. Those babies where incident… For all you pet lovers hung your babies extra close tonight… In a moments of time your dogs who are leashed can be acted by and unleaded dog and pay the price for their ignorance! People make me sick!!!
This is sickening and heart breaking! My heart goes out to the family of those 3 beautiful dogs. Not that it should be tit for tat but I really hope karma comes to other owner and his dog. Completely unfair!! May he feel consequences for the rest of his life that he is a discusting human being!
This is so upsetting to read the 3 dogs and owner did not get a fair go and the Law failed them all to many good family pets getting killed that should be saved what a sad Christmas you have brought to him killed all his dogs and what for nothing just because you think this breed is bad not true they make great family pets just like any other dogs it is bad humans who abuse this breed look at Micheal Vicks what a evil man he is and should never be able to own any animal let alone man best friend the dog it is people like him that spoil good dogs not the dogs in many homes dogs are one only true friend for life dont be cruel to them they are a gift from God and we are so lucky to have them to be part of a family with us stop killing loved family pets please so sad and so very wrong what is wrong with courts today dont they have a heart and a soul for any animals anymore or good owners doing the right thing like this man was RIP darling Doggies my thoughts are with the owner as this sad time
The sad thing is, I bet all these officials involved see themselves as Good Christians, when in fact, they are making a mockery of God by deciding he made a mistake by creating this beautiful breed of dog. So they take it upon themselves to commit genocide of God’s creation. Ignorant, stupid and egotistical to think themselves superior to God.
Such a sad story. I have sent many emails to the city of Austin and I hope that this judge loses her seat as it is an election year. I hope the animal control officer who took the dogs in the first place loses his job and the head animal control officer has nightmares for the rest of his time on this earth for doing what he did AND telling Chris what he did. All these people have sinned and I hope they pay for it.
I am so sorry Mr. Grant for the murder of your precious family members. This is horrendous and I hope that the Lexus project can get justice for Leo, Dawn and Gorgo. Not that that would ease your grief.
wow, this is just a disgrace and my stomach is turning… FIRST to the vial scum with the LOOSE OF THE LEASH DOG SHAME ON YOU AND YOU AND YOUR’S WILL COME BACK AT YOU 3X’S and when you lay your head down to sleep at night may ur dreams b filled with anger and disgust FOR YOURSELF.. and i hope your own dog turns on you, clearly YOUR DOG HAS ISSUES, which is ur faull as well.. THE “judge” and “animal control” psst a joke there just as much of a joke as a bredder or dog fighter them seleves.. i spit on you.. RIP TO THESE 3 BEAUTIFUL BABIES THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY ATLEAST YOU DONT HAVE TO FACE THE EVIL OF THE WORLD ANYMORE :’( I THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOOD SERVICE <3
Why are some cities moving in reverse when time and time again it is proven pitbulls are just dogs, loyal, loving dogs, not monsters. I can not imagine the pain that Christopher Grant is going thru, I just hope he knows there are many crying along aside him. This unjustice has to stop!!
i hope that judge rots in hell,he should loose his job,he is worthless,no justice as far as he’s concerned,he apparently doesn’t follow the rules
Sue Austin!!! Chris has a witness. He was unjustly treated, & these poor dogs paid the ultimate price. I hope he wins millions!!! I support his cause to kick Austin city government’s ass!!
This is just shameful. My heart goes out to the family who loved these dogs.
First, Chris – our most heartfelt condolences to you. Your babies will not be forgotten. There is a Pittie Pride event in Austin on Oct 28th. Perhaps anyone in the area can arrange a rally for these babies and coordinate with the groups that are hosting. (Google “Austin Pitbulls”, under News category)
END BSL and the insanity of deaths of our pets.
This is so sad. I wish people would see the bigger picture here. People ignore what is going on around them and laws like this get passed. People don’t vote and the ones that do, vote for the wrong people. The media is out of control! Even here in Maine the only dog stories you see on the news is about Pitbulls. People tend to be followers and not leaders so it is easy for the media to mislead people. I am so sorry this happened. We are slowly losing our rights and independence.
Because 2 of these dogs were Certified NSAR SERVICE DOGS and the other one was in training, they are supposed to be handled differently, ADA has specific guidelines, I am sure, and I doubt these were followed since they were murdered without due process, and a chance for appeal was denied. The way the owner was treated is violation of his Civil Rights. The fact that these dogs were emotional Support Dogs, indicates they removed his support structure and left him in such an emotional state as to be so traumatized, and unadvised to what his rights were, that he was unable to act properly in his own behalf and in the best interest of the dogs. I really doubt he was advised at all of his right. The Ignorance of the Justice System is appalling. What they fail to realize is our Canine Family Members is that to them It is JUST DOGS. To us these are family and to some it is the only family they have. I say if people are afraid of an animal because of their breed, that is a personal problem, and attempts to commit genocide of a dog breed is ludicrous and prejudiced! It is immoral!
Chris- I am very sorry for your loss, I can only imagine how you are feeling.
I am horrified by this. If this isnt a wake up call, then I dont know what is. Those dogs did nothing to deserve this. I am so sorry this happened.
My husband and I have 2 rescued pits that we truly love like family. It isnt the breed, its the owners and people around the dogs. I am disgusted that this happened.
Maybe this will get more people involved in animal rights and more people can be a voice for these innocent dogs.
For the record- once of my dogs came from fighting- she was a bait dog who probably should have died over after what she went thru but she didnt. She is the sweetest most easy going animal I have ever had and I have had a lot of animals. Its NOT the dogs fault.
May these dogs rest in peace in doggie heaven.
harmless? really? my neighbor has a pit bull, and on three occasions it has broken loose from it’s lease and charged over to my yard and attacked my dog. on each occasion was taken to court for the damage done to pit bull by my dog. each time it was thrown out of court, because the owner could not control the pit bull. this story only has one side, you need to hear the other side of the story before you jump on the band wagon. i know from experience that pit bulls not harmless,and that goes for all breeds. i really don’t see how it takes three dogs to defend against one.
The difference here is these dogs were trained and pets…any breed left untrained can and will become dangerous. I have a bernese mountain dog that was actually owned be a judge…How did I acquire a dog that is supposed to be a kind and gentle giant for free? She was not properly socialized or trained and was very very aggressive and dominant to people and animals..I got her from the judge thru a friend because this dog bit a child!! was it reported? No! With patience and training she is now a loving respectful dog…she is 9 years old now…we got her when she was 3…dont blame the whole breed for the dogs these people get and do not take the time or energy to train them…Dogs for a lot of people are a statice figure…And yes I also own a pit bull that never meets a stranger or a strange animal…I hope you keep your dog safe from the dog next-door that has been failed by its human…Its not the breed..its the owners..
Terriers (and I have one) are pompous little bastards who like to fight. Unlike my large dog, my smaller one has to be securely on leash at all times. You are far more likely to be bitten by one of these tiny terrors than by a huge pittie. This owner HAD his dogs leashed; it was an irresponsible TERRIER owner who is to blame for this entire thing!
James Cody Cunningham-
Maybe you need to voice your opinion elsewhere with all the other animal haters. This is a story about 3 dogs who did not get fair treatment and their owners loss.
Amen to that!!
OH GOD!! One pit bull out of over 7 million in the United States wants to fight your dog? You are so right, they are all vicious. I mean, that one freaking experience is truly representative. How about you educate yourself before opening your mouth. Following your logic, we should be destroying every Labrador in the world because the only one that I was ever around mauled me as a kid. But, unlike your, I have the mental capacity to realize that one dog is not representative of an entire breed.
You win! Best response, EVER!
So because your dog was attacked by another dog that just happened to be a pit bull, now you are lumping all pit bulls into a category as harmful? Okay, Now answer this, someone is attacked by an out of control Caucasian Male, so now we must all assume that all Caucasian Males are harmful? Do you see how stupid that is? This is just the whole problem in a nutshell, It isn’t the breed, each dog just as each person should be dealt with individually, How would you like to see genocide of all Caucasian Males made into law because some of them do harm? Now that is how stupid this is. If you cannot see that then you are beyond help!
Harmless? Really? You don’t have to jump on any bandwagon, no one is forcing you. Just because your neighbor has a shitty pit bull that attacked your dog doesn’t mean they are all bad. There a word for what you just did in the above comment. You’re using a. stereotype. Trained for whatever reason or not its still bullshit. If this were labs or chihuahuas that wouldn’t happen.
Ok,we don’t have to refer to her neighbor’s pit bull as “shitty.” It’s the neighbor that is shitty. I feel bad for that dog. If it was me, I would do everything I could to get that dog away from there. It’s people like that who give these dogs the reputation they have. Clearly, she rather complain about it & take her to court. That’s great logic.
Sick sick sick to my stomach! So very unfair.
where on earth has common sense gone, Mr Grant I hope you get some justice for your beloved pets, I hope the owner of the dog is prosecuted
This is gut wrenching. Shame on the judge who obviously had a bias towards the breed. Anyone know the name of the Judge/Executioner?
Sheryl we think its this judge… Evelyn McKee Presiding Judge.. You can find her at http://austintexas.gov/department/municipal-court
Not the judge, please update — NOT THE judge. The judge was a male.
Once again, Texas not only doesn’t listen, they put in a freaking “Express Lane” to kill these dogs. SHAME ON THEM!
The Austin Animal Control needs to be thoroughly investigated, the person who told Mr. Grant (owner of these trained Pits) never to return to visit his dogs, should be terminated of his duties immediately. This is not a person whom should be working with the public and their animals. Anyone who chooses to be that demeaning to another human being should not be in this line of work. Secondly, The Judge who murdered these dogs should resign and do Austin Texas a big favor. This POS Judge took life from the innocent causing great pain and despair to the surviving. NO JUDGE SHOULD HAVE THAT KIND OF POWER OF ANY ONES LIFE, animals or otherwise. Austin, Texas was made to look bad around the world because of this so called Judge. When some one takes the bench they take an oath to protect, service and provide justice. It’s apparent, that she had better things to do, than to take the time and due diligence in her research on this case. Three lives are lost at her command and she should be terminated of her position from the State of Texas, as she clearly was used her seat on the bench to go above the law in an a negligent manor. One mistake like that, is one too many. Judges and law enforcement need to get it through their heads that abusing and neglecting there titles and positions will have serious consequences. None of them are above the law! We the People, will fight until they’re removed from their positions of serving the public since they clearly show they are no longer trust worthy of such an honor. This will never be tolerated and can never happen again. The garbage that gets paid by we the people,in our public offices, courts and law enforcement needs to go. It’s people like this that take away from the good people who do their jobs with dignity and passion.
Chris Noble, Deputy Chief Animal Control, has demonstrated his arrogance, ignorance and incompetence in dealing with animals [and their humans] for a very long time… He has no business being in this profession, or in any other requiring a modicum of compassion. He is, and has been, merely an effective tax collector for the city. He must be removed! Now!
I concurr!!!!
And here I thought Austin was a nice place. Obviously fairness is not something that is practiced. I was going to visit… Now I won’t step foot in Austin, boycotting the place. Animals deserve better than the fate you meted in you superiority attitude….
Nope not nice any more….. very disappointed that “judges” and people in authority are so heartless….. but then why should I expect any better.
I am so deeply embarrassed to be a Texan at this point and furious about the injustice from our “justice” system! I didn’t know these dogs, but I mourn their loss. Why do people feel a need to be bullies, to shove their own insecurities or frustrations on any living thing, be it human or dog? Dogs don’t breed themselves to be fierce, dogs don’t train themselves to fight, they don’t abuse or starve themselves so discrimination against a whole breed is as ignorant and irresponsible as the people who give pits a bad name! I hope the judge gets removed from the bench.
Such a devastating example of the ignorance that abounds when it comes to APBTs. Stupid judges and people in “authority” refuse to educate themselves and they allow fear decide. It will be a long road until these people die or become reformed in thought. Educate the youth. In my eyes, that is our hope for this breed.
I would like to suggest that we paint the Austin City Government’s facebook page with comments.
What a terrible crime they committed!
I’m all for that.
What happen to justice in this country. ? Killing three innocent pit bulls on leashes and harnesses .
My heart goes out to these dogs and the owner if theses dogs. For the man who didn’t have his dog on a Leash
You should be held responsible for your dogs actions . And for the judge you r stupid for not listing to everything and taking
Inconsideration that u just caused three innocent family dogs that were at the park going to a training class with there owner
to be killed . Because of your non responsibility stupidness . I am a pit bull love for all u people out there who have pit bulls
keep are put bulls safe .
I can’t even imagine the pain this man is going through right now. To loose not one, but all three of his dogs in one day JUST because he wanted to make them model citizens and take them to a park(Where EVERYONE is allowed to go)for training.
In my opinion the Terrier mix should be evaluated or put down as well. The Terrier is the danger here, he did this once, he will do it again.
I am so sick of people and their stupid little mutts who think they are above the law, and don’t have to leash their dogs anyplace.
Or think they are exempt from the Service animal only signs cause their little monster is in a shopping cart, or a purse.
This is my biggest fear as pit bull owner. I never take Zeus to the dog park if it is occupied by other dogs. When I walk him in town, I will turn or take a side street when any other dog is coming in the other direction. I avoid all areas where I know there are unleashed dogs. Zeus gets to play with dogs he knows in a controlled environment for his enjoyment and socialization. Way too many people are quick to blame a pit for anything. I’ve had times when he’s LOOKED at a person passing by and the person has gotten agitated just by his presence. It’s not fair and it’s not right, but it is what I have to do in order to keep my boy safe. And I’m sorry, the ‘OFF’ command will work if the dog is the aggressor, but no mentally stable being of any breed or genus is going to refuse to defend itself if attacked.
I hear ya! I have two, Lola and Gucci, both rescues and both amazing girls. I have people that cross the street and glare at us when we are walking them. They fail to see the ass wiggling and the tail going a hundred miles an hour! I’ve had people walk up to us, ask if it’s okay if they pet them and I tell them sure! They get big, sloppy kisses like nobody’s business but when they ask what kind of dogs they are and I tell them pit bulls, you can see the change in their demeanor immediately; it’s very sad. We have taken to walking them at night and very early in the morning when most people aren’t out and about.
This is pure evil. Austin is the new Belfast. They are murderers.
Just goes to prove this judge should not be in power. I’d he is not reading the evidence he is not doing his job properly what other mistakes does he make. Stupid old codger. Sack him.
This is horriffic the city of Austin should be ashamed!! They are constantly in the news for their police killing family pets, and now a judge who wishes to just kill them contrary to the evidence. If I lived there I’d be embarrassed to admit it to anyone! I WILL NEVER AGAIN BUY ANYTHING PRODUCED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS UNTIL THEY PASS SOME LAWS PROTECTING ANIMALS FROM PEOPLE WITH A BADGE OR A ROBE THAT THINK THEY ARE GOD AND CAN KILL AT WILL!
If you want to see more of the city of Austin Texas’s method of dealing with family pets, visit this page http://www.facebook.com/JusticeForCisco?sk=wall and if you want to see the Austin PD in action, watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWqDR4c07fw THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS OUT OF CONTROL FOLKS.
Are you folks aware that Austin is THE most ‘Liberal’ community between California and the East Coast? Native Texans are ashamed of the ‘Den of Fools’ that inhabit Austin.
My deepest condolonces to Chris and his family; may your sweet babies rest in peace. Nothing will bring back your family members and only time will heal the hurt and the pain. I truly hope you get justice for your kids! I’m totally digusted (but not shocked) that this has happened; you just say the word pit bull and people lose their minds! The stupidity, ignorance and fear mongering really has to stop!
I don’t understand in this day and age of internet and social media why your city officials would chose this course of action. By killing these 3 dogs without a fair trial, you have opened yourself up to a barrage of attacks from the animal community. We are a large, loving and supportive group that spans the globe. Everyone knew about Lennox, because of us. Yes it was too late to save Lennox for we all fear he was killed long before the battle on social media got started. You have chosen to follow in Belfast’s footsteps, for the life of me I have no idea why, and for those actions we have responded in full force. you will not get away with this crime against animals and their owners. We will hold you legally and monetarily responsible. Your city will be boycotted and shamed until you right this wrong. A public apology and monetary restitution is good place to start to rebuild your image in the American public’s eye.
It sounds to me like there need to be some replacements of the people in charge of animal control and judging.
These murders were senseless and brought on my pure fear and ignorance. The people responsible for the murders of these three babies won’t go unpunished. God will see to that and I pray that day comes sooner rather than later before they take anymore innocent lives because of their lack of education and common sense. Every one of you who participated in murdering Leo, Dawn and Gorgo make me sick. You disgust me in every way possible. None of you deserve to breathe the same air as the rest of us.
As the publisher of this magazine I too am shocked by this incident and commend Ernest for his never-ceasing dedication to the rights of animals and his great, loving heart for life itself. I am pleased with the article but even more pleased to have Ernest as the managing editor of this publication, something his hard work and going beyond the expected has brought to him. I am setting up a donation area specifically for him and others like him who work for this publication, so when you see it, please contribute. This publication is very transparent in every way, so money will go directly to writers like Ernest, and to Ernest himself, as the highest contributor on the site. As it is, you will notice we seldom have advertising, unless it is for charitable causes, but we are moving into the time when that will be more and more difficult. Ernest has great stature, and I write this here because people like him are seldom rewarded at the level of their stature.
On the city of Austin’s web page there is an email link to email all city council memebers…I think it’s time they heard public opinion of the actions of this judge. http://www.austintexas.gov/mail/all-council-members
Thanks, DEB
I left a message telling them I expect that things be put right and justice is done. The other dog owner should be charged, restitution should be made with an apology to this pit bull owner, and the shelter worker and judge should be out of their jobs.
I am boycotting Austin until this is done, and I used to visit often. No more! I think they should be taken to court and have to pay for what they have done. Not even time for an appeal! Horrible. Everyone should write and boycott this terrible place, Austfast.
Deb and Carol.. Please do.. Also follow us on Facebook..
http://www.facebook.com/SaveLeoDawnAndGorgo
I don’t know what to say. This is simply criminal. These dogs were actually murdered. We have got terrible problems in this country. Wake up America. Everyone, vote on November 6th. People of Austin, please vote this judge off the bench. To the owner of these lovely and gentle dogs, my sincere and deepest sympathy. I just cannot imagine the heartbreak.
Ordering the murder of 2certified therapy dogs. Wonder if that **** is proud of herself. Makes me want to rwretch
Judge McKee is a disgrace to our justice system and to the women who have fought against discrimination all their lives. The Austin animal control department is a reflection of her and her hypocritical values. They claim to have lost Mr. Grant’s bite report, they took the three pit bulls, but not the other dog, these actions scream dishonesty and discrimination. Judge McKee, Deputy Chris Noble, and those who mocked Chris Grant for crying about his pets, his family, are a disgrace to our country and mankind.
I find it increasingly disturbing how these people have the power to seize your dogs and kill them without actually considering the facts. They see the breed, case closed.If the judge had actually cared enough to really delve into this case, she could not have sentenced these dogs to anything but going home. She is another dime a dozen judge who made a snap decision because these are Amstaffs, nothing more. As for the waste of space ACO, I will not post here what I would like done with/to him. The callous treatment the owner recieved by the employees of the shelter is inexcusable. These people are heartless ghouls and there should be a house cleaning…. if I had my way a beating would go with it. This whole case was mishandled, these dogs did nothing improper, yet the owner of the dog who caused the problem is at home with his dog and has no consequences. Injustice again at the hands of the incompetent- who should not have positions of power. I will be contributing money to support the civil case.
Are you fuc#ing kidding me… how would that judge feel if someone said he murdered someone went n court they said hes guilty then took him straight to death row.. Fuc# you you dont deserve to be a judge your ignorant.. Need a petition to get rid of this judge if you cant give a fair trial and dont care about evidence.. Hes got a predjudice against pitts and shouldnt of had the case.. To be a jurior u have to take a qquestioneer to see if their fit why didnt the judge!!! Ok im done too pissed!!!!!!!!!
I am so sick & tired of this!! Innocent pit bulls all over the world are being put to death for no reason at all. As a pit bull owner I have to say they are the most loveable dogs I have ever owned. Something has to change!
Want to know the dogs I have been attacked by: German Shepherds, Chows, Corgis, Chihuahuas and Poms. I have never had one of the ‘stereotypical aggressive’ breeds attack me! I own 2 boxer/pit mixes and I have never even heard one of them growl in the 3 yrs of their lives! I send my positive thoughts to the owner of these 3 kind souls who have now forcibly crossed the bridge. I hope Karma pays a visit onto the judge and the animal control officers who made this event come to such a wretched ending. The person in the park who lost control of their dog… I’ve dealt with people like that. Been attacked by loose dogs while my boy and I are minding our own business. My dog doesn’t even act out in aggression to protect himself, he cowers behind me, pleading to me to save him from very dangerous and out of control dogs(who all have been herd dogs of some kind or mix). I personally feel terrible for the man who now has lost members of his family! (((HUGS))) and boxer kisses to Chris!
the f*cker better run cuz if this was me i would be going after the attacking dog and owner and treating them like these 3 dogs were treated! how ignorant! i am a pitbull mother of 3 and i would do anything for my babys!
I find this story so sad! we know all about the image that is portrayed about this breed and that of staffies in england, but this just shows no amount of evidence would stand in a court that these were loved and cared for pitbulls and did not deserve to be sentenced to death is there no justice for this poor owner and his suffering? the judge is no judge to condemn without a far trial! so sorry for your loss.i took comfort in this poem: some people will never know,who see no lightest blades of grass,bent by his tiny paws,who here no whimper,people who may not of had a dog
smile at them for you shall know something that is hidden from them.
Which is well worth the knowing, the only place to bury a good dog is in the hearts of those who loved him.
I really do think the judge is quacked in the freaking head, how was the dogs given a fair trial, I am sure there was a lot of by standers around to see this and yet the other dog had turret syndrome and attacked the bigger dogs??? I really do think the other dog should have been quarantined and the other owner giving a pricy fee for the three dogs that had to be put down!!!!!!
I wrote a letter to the council.. Mr Grant deserves a public apology for the murder of his dogs and the council should all volunteer at a shelter/with a rescue group and learn the facts about Pitbulls!!
Thank you for the link above Deb! http://www.austintexas.gov/mail/all-council-members
I am saddened that a member of our Judicial system would act so carelessly and sentence three Pitbulls to death clearly based upon their own prejudices rather than the facts of the case.
Christopher Joseph Grant deserves a public apology from the Judge for the murder of his three dogs Leo, Dawn, and Gorgo!!! The Judge AND the entire Austin Texas council should volunteer at a local rescue group and meet their dogs, especially their Pitbulls, and learn some facts about the breed before more dogs experience the same fate due to unwarranted stereotypes!!
THE OUTCOME OF THIS CASE WAS NOTHING BUT DISGRACEFUL
I still cannot believe this happened. How incredibly ignorant of everyone involved!!! My heart just breaks for them. I just cant imagine the horror.
I was just on Change.org and according to them, this is the judge’s info: Evelyn McKee evelyn.mckee@ci.austin.tx.us 512-974-4834
If you call or email, please keep it professional.
NOT the judge. Please stop sending her info out!
I think judges should be more accountable for there actions this judge should be charged for 1 degree murder weather or not being human or animal . I think it would make them think twice before making any judgement that they are making .
Horrible miscarriage of justice and disgusting action on part of the court…remember to vote…This makes me physically sick and I can only imagine the pain that the owner must feel…sue sue sue….money is all that gets their attention..
I can’t believe that they are killing people’s pets in the USA..the “home of the free”,these judges and civil servants must be voted out of office!!that is the only way!!!Shame on Texas!!Shame to the judge!My only wish is that all who were involved ..PAY FOR IT!!KARMA!!
The rush to execute the dogs before there was even time for an appeal violates the law, doesn’t it? It certainly violates the constitutional rights of the dogs’ owner. It’s bad enough that all the evidence and facts were ignored by the judge and other authorities, but state sanctioned, cold blooded murder is just wrong.
It’s like having what happened to Lennox and Parrot combined. Parrot was attacked by a poodle at the Addams Morgan Festival in DC. The POODLE started the fight and is the only one who bit someone (his own owner), yet Parrot is the dog the PO grabbed and BRUTALLY killed. We all know what happened to Lennox, though at least his family was given time for the appropriate appeals.
If Austin authorities hadn’t known they were wrong about these dogs, I don’t think there would have been a rush to kill them before the appeal. They’re no better than murderers.
Judge McKee and the City of Austin, Texas will have to answer on three counts of MURDER when they are confronted with the Civil Suit which is in the works right now. Please help avenge the murders by chipping in ANY amount to help with court fees, etc. Even if it is only $1.00…don’t be shy. I am sending $20.00 and wish I could afford more. Let us all help Chris and his beloved pets get some PAYBACK! The cavalry is coming!!
I cant even look at those poor beautiful dogs faces! I am really not a violent person, but I say burn down the courthouse! I will give anyone thousands of dollars if a lawsuit is brough up agains the court.
All I can say is: Wow! Unbelievable! I feel so, so sad for the family and all of the people of Austin.
What a travesty!
What a useless bunch of ignorant egomaniacs that work for the City of Austin. During a time of economic hardship, can’t we find qualified and competent individuals to hold these positions? People that truly care about animals, and not political clout? It just goes to show AGAIN, that intelligence, common-sense, compassion and overall good moral character are clearly not required to be a public official. This agency is an embarrassment to animal shelters across the country, and I imagine only disgust true animal lovers everywhere. My heart goes out to the owner of these precious babies. May they rest in peace <3
Unfortunately there is nothing we can do for the dogs now. But we can get this judge off the bench the next election. What was his/her name?
Horrible
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I have 3 great dogs and the two females have moments where I am pulling them apart, but that should not mean a good dog should be put to death. I am so sick of hearing about Pits being put to death and especially if they have not done anything wrong. Hell my 3 would not allow themselves to be attacked they would fight back too. Most dogs would. So many people are uneducated and have no clue. These 3 beauties did not receive justice. I am so sorry for their owner.
This is so terribly sad – and just wrong on so many levels.
Can he not counter sue (i know it won’t help his babies – but maybe it will help the next BSL victim) – Justice was not served, so he could perhaps pursue wrongful deaths there, he was injured by the other dog so there were medical costs, there was both physical and emotional suffering – and it sounds like a gracious plenty of witnesses. I hate that the country has gone “sue happy” and a paper cut can lead to a demand for compensation, but there are times like this when suing is justified.
If what is presented in the article is true, then the judge needs to be charged with murder and put on death row.
Ugh…this is what our tax dollars pay for? To kill service animals? I wonder what happened to the owner of the dog that attacked….nothing probably. What an awful story.
Folks had better WAKE up before this country is gone… Stop supporting the Nazi Police and stop voting for Liberals or we are done.
This is unfair on so many levels and is clearly discriminating against this breed. How on earth could everyone allow family pets who followed the rules to be destroyed while the other one walks away free. That would be a law suit If I was the owner, I could not stand for this as a bully owner! I LOVE this breed and they are loyal and dedicated to me. I almost cried reading this! I can no longer take my dogs to a park because if someone else is being a irresponsible… then they blame would still be my way!
It’s truly a shame that a city that calls it’s No Kill can murder 3 dogs without giving consideration to all the facts. A judge that won’t listen to both sides, and an AC that showed no compassion for the owner or the dogs when they murdered them within hours of the hearing….there is no justice there.
Two were service dogs, which should have some protection under the law??? Is there an attorney willing to take this on? Will not get his dogs back, but should make judges think twice before ruling based on their very biased opinion instead of the LAW!!! An animal rights attorney could make a good name for themselves and their firm while doing all of us a service by helping put a stop to this discrimination!!!!+
Mr. Grant, i have tears in my eyes. My heart aches for you broken family.
I hope that ***ing judge burns in hell.
i nev liked pitbull…but killing them has never and will never be my option.
Those pitbull deserves a justice
Well I guess life ,liberty and pursuit of happiness is not for animals….. ignorance is bliss and the learned judge if he was so, would have followed the recourse to evaluation . jungle justice was served here what a pity, the judiciary has come to this point in life the standards are even getting lower than some third world nations… and not to mention Africa!!!
You should have researched a little bit more before posting the story. The other dog involved in this- an 11 year old dog. She ended up needed multiple surgeries for wounds that were not from a dog on the defense. (i.e. bone chewed out of her leg!) Also her owner had to go to the er and required surgery as well. Just saying if you are going to post an article, find your facts and don’t just provide one side. This case was not about the breeds but about the level of damage the three dogs caused. I love pitbulls and am a rescue advocate but this owner (of the 3 pits) is doing the breed injustice by lying about the circumstances.
Isn’t it an obvious fact, one that you also don’t deny, that the terrier was off leash. Wasn’t the owner supposed to leash his dog and keep it under control. About the level of damage, of course damage will be done when you attack a group of three pit bulls. But who is responsible here? About the injury of the owner, I have mentioned that the pit bull owner states so (read my article carefully). According to him, there is no bite report and even a witness who saw the incident. I don’t want any dog dad or harmed. But accidents do happen. However, seizing one party and then killing it without evidence is outrageous. Even a fair trial was not allowed. About the level of damage, believe me that judge is capable of much serious damage – and has already done it. And you don’t need special training to see that damage. The murdered pits are before you.
Dear S. Where did you get your facts from????? I would really like to know? Also, even if this is true, Civil Rights were Violated and due process with the right to appeal the case were denied. Please post your source of information and also unless you were there and a witness, how can any of us know now, because the right to a fair trial was denied and witnesses for the Pits were not allowed to testify. They are dead now, with no chance to have their side of the story heard either. If the one that was bitten had not kicked and punched the dogs, or had his dog under control and leashed, None of this would ever have happened now would it???? If I am attacked by an unleashed dog, and the owner kicks and punches me, I am gonna fight back!
The Lexus Project is pursuing civil action in this case.The dogs cannot be brought back, but justice can be served. This story is plain wrong. There was no chance for appeal since there was not court reporter present during the hearing. This case was mishandled from the word go.A loose dog comes up to three dogs on a leash and starts fighting. And the dogs that were leashed are killed. WRONG!!
Would this law not apply in this case since according to the state our canines are our property?
Amendment XIV, Section 1
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
Get rid of this judge!! Sick, unfair person. His/her unfairness will follow every case, this could be your family ( pet or human) next! I hope Karma comes to this wretched judge very soon!
The correct judges name is Ronald Steven Meyerson.Just sickened by this whole story.
I am so sorry for a big loss like this ,May the Dogs RIP,, I am crying over this its so sad ,OMG SO SORRY ,, Why people are so mean ????
I just found out about this and I can’t believe my eyes. Poor dogs. Poor Chris. This is criminal. The action to destroy these dogs based on one judges position with no appeal and a rushed murder of three loving animals. I can’t look at their picture without tears coming to my eyes. I am sorry that humanity was not humane and let these dogs and their owner/friend down. We failed as humans and nothing will bring them back. Someone needs to pay for this travesty of justice. Someone needs to lose a job, a lifestyle, friends and loved ones to atone foe this crime of MURDER. This was clearly MURDER. So sorry you guys. I feel humiliated to be a member of the human race. I think I am going to change my race.
This makes me so sad, I want to cry. These dogs were just minding there own business with the owner and then disaster struck., I am so sorry that this happened to them. I will never move to Austin. RIP you poor honeys. Jesus is taking care of you now.
I am well versed with this story and I am fluent with this police report and I have read the court hearings (which are public, so please go find them). Furthermore, just to be safe, I have done my own research into both the victim and the owner of the three euthanized dogs. These are the facts from what I have read: First, about which dogs were not on a leash and which dogs were. The victim’s dog, a terrier mix, was not on a leash. The three pit bulls, were not on a leash, not even a 50-foot leash. Though, one of the pit bulls had a rope that was, most likely, meant to act as a leash, but was tied to no other object. The police report quotes Grant in saying, after the attack, that his dogs were NOT on a leash. Later, he had told the police that the dogs were actually on a leash. Furthermore, at the court hearing, weeks later, Grant had then said that he had coned off an area of the parking lot where the attack had happened (hence one of the bullet points above says “the incident did not occur in an enclosure in which the dogs were being kept, and the injured person was not trespassing in the enclosure when the attack, bite, or mauling occurred”), but the police found no cones or leashes that existed in the area. The victim and his dog did not go into the area, which was not coned off, where the owner and his dogs, which were not leashed, were training (Grant had told police that he was training with his dogs near where his truck was parked) near his truck, which was 100 yards away from where the attack happened. Second, the attack was real and yes, there are injuries on the victim and his dog. The three pit bulls had ran towards the victim’s dog from Grant’s truck and started to chew on the dogs legs and neck. As the victim (this is all in the police report) ran towards his dog that was being mauled he pulled on the one pit bull that had the rope around its neck and tried to pull it towards a tree where he could tie it down with the rope. As the victim was doing this the same pit bull had bit his hand and his thighs. As the victim was trying to do this, the other two pit bulls were still chewing and pulling on the victim’s dog. One pit bull was pulling on the victims’ dogs neck and the other pit bull was pulling on the victims’ dogs leg; they were literally pulling the dog apart (the victim’s dog was 10 years old where the pit bulls were around 2, so there wasn’t much of a contest there). The victim’s dog had to have over 15 stitches where it’s stomach was bit open and had to have it’s back left leg amputated (this is all in the court case– with pictures showing what it looked like. Pretty gruesome. Bone was showing on all of the leg). As the victim was able to get the pit bull to the nearest tree to tie that one down, the leash around it’s neck broke and the pit bull then ran to attack the victim’s dog again. It just… It was a gruesome slaughter that lasted for 10 minutes (not joking, really, 10 minutes!!) The victim had a fractured finger, torn tendon in the hand, around two bites on his thigh and several cuts all over his knees where he was rolling around on the concrete, and finally bruises where he was punching the dogs to get them off of him and his own dog. Grant’s dogs received no injury that was reported. (all in the court report– which is public)
Third, the animal behaviorist was a licensed city worker who found the dogs to be too dangerous to even approach. As they were quarantined for alleged rabies, the animal behaviorist attempted to conduct a report but every time she attempted to come near the cage where the dogs were, they became overtly aggressive.
Fourth, whether the dogs were support animals or not. The pit bulls were emotional support dogs under the reason by Grant, to help with veterans cope emotionally. I looked into how to get your dogs qualified for this license and you have to go http://www.nsarco.com where they request “Although you do not need to specify your particular disability, just click the box below to confirm that you qualify” and then pay $65 and then you are able to qualify your dogs as “emotional support animals”.
Fifth, why did they euthanize the dogs so fast? Well, I was a little baffled by this too. I didn’t want to resort to the simple statement that the court was trying to hide something and so I did some research and I found out an interesting little fact. Apparently, and this is ALL public information, Mr. Grant and his three pit bulls have been in another situation like this. A couple months ago his three pit bulls had attacked a woman and had bitten her ear off! So, I’m guessing that it was a “fool you once, fool you twice” situation where the court just had enough information to euthanize the dogs.
So, those are the facts that I have off of the police reports and the court hearings. They are all public information and anyone is able to go down there and read them yourself. So please stop arguing about who did what and who got hurt and what was leashed and so on and so forth and go get the facts yourself. Don’t read them off some news report, because we know those can be wrong with freedom of press and all and don’t believe the people involved with the report, because we know that what they is just going to biased on what they feel should be done. Just, go get the facts yourself. It’s all public information. THIS WEBSITE IS WRONG ON ALMOST EVERY ACCOUNT.
How can there be a court report with no court reporter present????? They can make up anything they want to in reports to justify what they did, and because they say it’s facts, doesn’t make it facts. If they had handled this with due process of law, then it would make it much easier to believe them, but since they didn’t, it makes it very hard for me to believe anything they say. That’s why it is so important for the justice system to follow the law no matter how emotional the case may be, they are not supposed to act on those emotions but follow the law as it is written in the constitution. If this had been done, none of this would be an issue.
Exactly! And who is John Grady? He posted this same tripe to the “Save Leo, Dawn and Gorgo” Facebook page six hours ago… He also joined Facebook six hours ago… Despite his assertions of “the facts”, police reports and court hearing statements are just as notoriously inaccurate as press reports… What John Grady states are not necessarily “facts”. Suspect a major troll… Is he the Animal Control Officer involved? A publicist for City of Austin? A “friend” of Judge Meyerson? Whatever, Chris Grant’s civil rights and right to due process [and those of his three dogs] were violated.
Court reporter documents are carefully scrutinized, far more than other records, particularly those in reference to court hearings. Although I don’t countenance wanton put downs of dogs, I always believe in checking these records when available. Often they are not available. And by the way, many people will sign up for a site in order to comment on something, which doesn’t make someone fake, but instead concerned. Take it or leave it, there are many documented attacks by pit bulls in every city around the world, so there is a reason people are concerned. Now how these animals are cared for does make a difference, but there are breed-specific behaviors as well. This means treatment must be particularly kind. And the treatment of animals in captivity is sometimes quite awful. I think Ernest checks his facts as best he can on what is available, and we will continue to look into this case and both sides of any issue.
Finally, a voice of reason. Yes, the facts are in the police report and court transcripts which are public records. All three dogs were “off leash” in a public parking lot and were the aggressors. The owner of the 3 pit bulls had no control over his dogs. It seems the victim and his small dog had no defense against these 3 large dogs. If the 3 dogs weren’t aggressive, the attacks wouldn’t have happened in the first place. Perhaps these dogs took on a “pack” mentality, but ultimately, the responsibility of the 3 dogs is up to their owner to have control and, at a minimum, keep them on a leash.
I have a Rottweiler (another breed on the aggressive dog list), but she is very sweet; however, it is my “sole” responsibility that I not only keep others safe, but my dog safe as well. I believe that “nurture” not “nature” is why dogs (large and small) are aggressive. Owners must be held accountable. I hate to see any animal be euthanized, but the owner, not the victims or authorities, is responsible for their deaths due to his own negligence.
John Grady is no “voice of reason”… He is most likely a fake name acting as an apologist for the system, which failed miserably in this case… I question your veracity [if not your existence] as well! You state “If the 3 dogs weren’t aggressive, the attacks wouldn’t have happened in the first place.” Bull! From which college is your degree in Animal Behaviorism? Is it the same one as the (*non-existent*!) “Animal Behaviorist” [NOT] employed by the Austin Animal Shelter? And note the first post just above, from S.J. DeClue, in response to Grady… “no court reporter”! From exactly where are you getting *your* “facts”? They [Animal Control, APD, and Judge Ron Meyerson] violated Chris Grant’s civil rights and murdered three sentient beings!
If this is pubic information, then let’s have it! I can’t go to Texas and find it and everything I have read said there was no court reporter. Even THIS biased story
http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/austin/social-media-uproar-regarding-pit-bulls
Refers to authorities saying Grant’s dogs were on leashes, albeit 50 foot ones.
And notice the first comment from a shelter volunteer stating that there actually isn’t a behaviorist on staff there. This story smells.
My dogs have been attacked by loose dogs on multiple occasions and YES, they fight back. If a 10-year-old dog was nuts enough to rush at them despite being outnumbered and twice their age then I’m SURE they would do some damage. I can’t imagine a world where they would get the blame for it. That’s what this story really boils down to for me.
Why don’t you get a real job!! You’re saying everybody else is wrong but your story is correct?? Oh really?!? You have got to be either Mr. Laird, a relative of his or the judge. And you’re a ****tard!! Getting on Facebook just to post this shit? You are a wack job! You seem to think your story is the truth and everybody else is false. What a joke! Why don’t you act like a man and put your real name on here. No Jo Blow would know this “shit”. Really?? The exact number of stitches?? You’re an idiot! So what is your name- Ken Laird or Ron Meyerson??
My name is John Grady. I work for a pizza company and I was present at the court hearing. I heard everything that was said and I find it repulsive that Chris Grants has lied on several accounts to gain the public’s ear. I am actually thinking the same thing (you seem to think your story is the truth and everybody else is false) and if you go down to Dempsey’s post (the guy that wrote this article) you will see that he is just opined about what he thinks may have happened, based only on what Chris Grant told him, a biased lead indeed.
I don’t care if John Grady finds my opinion biased; I surely am biased in favor of justice. It doesn’t matter who the owner is; what matters is what happened to him/her and how. Dictating that a dog is dangerous without independent assessment and not giving a chance to appeal the decision are acts of open injustice. And those who justify such acts are only helping further the sufferings of people and animals.
Can you please define justice for me Mr Dempsey? Wait, wait, I got it. Merriam Webster states that it is “the maintenance or administration of what is just especially by the impartial adjustment of conflicting claims or the assignment of merited rewards or punishments.” Now if you read carefully you will realize that justice is based on the adjustment of conflicting claims, but Mr Dempsey, your summary of what happened is only on the claim from Mr Grant, and you did not contact Mr Laird for his story. You simply wrote a BIASED account of what happened, thus, because it is BIASED, it is, by definition, NOT justice.
Furthermore, the independent assessment was done by a professional that stood on good record with both attorneys (thus, if Mr Grants attorney felt uncomfortable or wanted a second opinion he could have asked for it at the hearing, but he did not, because the one that was used, was a professional in good standing).
Now you are scampering about like a confused rat, putting me in place of “justice”. I am a writer. I give my “opinion” and it is fr the readers to deicide if it is biased. You find it biased. That is okay. But others don’t find it biased. That is their right. You should not have any cramps about it. But don’t try to muddle things by telling I am supposed to do justice. I speak my mind and that I spoke. The justice was to be done by the authorities. They didn’t – at least in my opinion they didn’t. And I have every right to write my opinion. Nobody can take that right from me or you. I wonder why you haven’t already started a blog and written about it. If you claim to know the “truth”, just write it. And yes, since you think contacting both sides is important even for an Op-Ed piece, do contact Mr. Grant before you write your post.
haha… So can I quote you saying that you are a writer? I was just wondering because when everything hits the fan, I want to see what job you will be taking next. Want to deliver pizzas with me? hahaha That’s all you could do really, because when people see how biased your opined mind is, they are not going to hire you for that anymore, haha. Though I guess you could go on to do what you do now, but then people will actually know the truth. Not because you are saying the truth, but because people will know to just believe the opposite of what you say.
So, ok, now that I have your attention, I want to ask you two serious questions. **And let it be known to everyone that if he answers by just side-stepping the question or not answer at all, then the answer is “no”.
My question is, do you have any documentation, besides what Mr Grant told you, about any of what you have written? And if yes, may I have a link to that documentation?
I will not be out of job because with time I am getting more writing work. However, if you tried to exhibit this level of stupidity to your customers or management, they surely will leave you alone. So you’ll be talking not even to the hand but a pizza – the final one. LOLS!
Documentation? So you are bent on repeating your exhibition of unreason endlessly. Grant’s story and petition are online. They are public knowledge and open to be taken up for comments. And if you know about journalism, which you obviously don’t (given your amateurish fumble at defining an op-ed), you will learn that I am not supposed to reveal my sources as long as I don’t have express permission from them to do so. And to hold it your face, I withheld Mr. Laird’s name in my post (despite knowing it from sources) because revealing that will be inappropriate. And if you look at your comments it was your doing to bring his name up in this discussion. talking writing? LOLS!
So Mr. Grady, journalism is different from selling pizzas. Just do your job. Don’t try to waste your time and that of others. It will be good for at least the “rest of the world”.
So… Your answer is “no” then? Yup, that’s what I thought.
You can think? Really? Another claim? LOL
Simply childish and as well just side-stepping the question. Again, you are just saying “no” repeatedly now.
Keep soothing yourself with self-deception. That is the only way you can get some room as your cover is entirely blown now.
Yeah, I would like to hear what your sources are too, if you don’t mind. I believe in bits and pieces of each story but there are some things that just don’t add up on each side. Why did they put down the dogs before they let grant see his dogs? And why did grant say his dogs were unleashed at court? But whichever, I would like to hear what other sources you have, because I have read grant’s story of what happened on change.org and your story matches with his almost exactly, so what did the other sources contribute then? Anyways, I don’t want to get into this fight so start insulting me, I am just wondering.
Don’t wonder Buddy Johnson, and don’t worry about the sources. The story is before you. And I am not supposed to reveal my sources unless I get their permission. So if somebody decides to remain anonymous, they have the right.
No, I want to worry about the sources, because that’s a vital piece of the puzzle. I personally don’t believe you but good luck to you anyways.
I don’t need anyone to believe me. Good bye!
OMFG This is so wrong on so many levels!!! they need to give pits a fighting chance! they did nothing wrong!!
I joined facebook just so I could write that on his website. People are being scammed there all day long! Grant has a donation system running for his dogs! Do you want to know what he is using the money for? He’s using it for a lawsuit that he is fighting because his three dogs took a woman’s ear a couple months back! It’s just a big scam and everyone is on the ride because of stupid media like this.
And here: here is some reason to believe: http://austintexas.gov/sites/default/files/files/Animal_Services/ASOmemoReGrantCaseOct2012.pdf
You have to go get the court reports yourself. THey have them as public knowledge. There is a court reporter, by law, at every court hearing, and there was one there taking down all that was said!
TO MR GRADY! No matter any of the issues surrounding the case…it’s all Blah, blah, blah to me: This is what matters to me: Would this law not apply in this case since according to the state our canines are our property?
Amendment XIV, Section 1
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
The So called Justice System of Austin Texas has no Right to violate the Constitution of the United States of America period! I suspect you are a troll for them anyway and I put no more faith in what you are saying than what they say. Because they violated these Rights, I can’t believe anything else they say. If they will do this, I have no faith in them whatsoever!
Actually no. Because: Chapter 822.003 under the Texas Law of Canine Bites is constitutional is because it protects the attacked victim and HIS PROPERTY. Because Mr Grant’s property took property from Mr Laird than the state of texas has constitutional right to take the property, owned my Mr Grant, due to the course that it is a harm to other citizens and their right to hold property. What you are citing protects the victims, it does not protect the attackers. Furthermore, Mr Grant’s dogs were represented with “due process of law” with the hearing on September 28th and the judge made a concise objection that he is against ruling any dogs to be put down but under such heinous violence that was caused by them, he has no choice. FURTHERMORE, MR Grant was told many times throughout the hearing, which lasted over 4 hours, that he would have no right to appeal the decision made by the judge. These are all LAWS of Texas and have been for some time.
I cite from the below sources:
http://austintexas.gov/sites/default/files/files/Animal_Services/ASOmemoReGrantCaseOct2012.pdf
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/Locations/Laws/TexasStateLaw.pdf
http://www.scribd.com/doc/109026397/Letter-to-Vols-Oct-42012
It is a shame that Grant was told he had no right to appeal. This is dictatorial mindset masked as law and proves that the judge and his team paid all by the city had planned to victimize Grant.
About property – it is just your claim that Grant’s property took Laird’s; Grant’s story says Laird’s property attacked his property and his property acted in self-defence. So Laird’s dog was the attacker. Now what proof you have to refute Grant’s story.
There are witnesses, that are not state employees, to the court hearing. You have: just Grant. He has no witnesses and witnesses are testifying against him. Tell me, do you know what bias is Mr Dempsey? Bias is defined by Merriam dictionary to be “an inclination of temperament or outlook; especially : a personal and sometimes unreasoned judgment.” Tell me, doesn’t that sound like what Mr Grant is? Because he has personal value in this case how could you possibly believe a word he is saying because of his specific “inclination of temperament or outlook”. If Mr Laird was the one coming to you and doing the same thing I would be saying the exact same thing about him but Mr Laird seems to be letting the officials take control of this situation, a much more logical thinking of what an innocent man does- not go online to crack pot writers to try to sway public thought by bad mouthing everyone. Shame shame shame.
Wow! What a fascinating concept of bias and truth! You telling me that if a single person is victimized by a gang, then the gang is the right in doing so because they are many and can speak in favor of one other. If you become the victim of a bunch of people, will you say that was okay because you simply had no witness. I hope such mockery of justice doesn’t become the rule (which already seems to be the case in Texas).
Crackpot writers – well, at least I don’t sell smelly pizzas. Just go and do what you are good at. Don’t make a mess here.
No, you fool. If 1 person is victimized by a gang of 1000 then guess what, we would have the judicial process (of 600,000 people in austin)saying what is justice and what is not. Sure, that gang may agree as a group to attack someone, but just because that very small group agrees to something doesn’t make the rest of world work for that decision. Where were you raised?
Goodness, Mr Dempsey you are simply proving my point. Lets say, in your example, that that one person is a dog and that gang is actually three dogs, now would you say that it would be ok, because you simply had no witness, that the victim (attacked by that gang–three dogs– where it showed that that victim was chewed, ripped and torn torn to shreds and the gang showed NO damage to them)had it coming to them because it was agreed upon by the gang to attack them?
First allow me to say that you must have been raised in a cheap oven (no pun intended) since you keep deceiving yourself by thinking you are talking sense. It’s just the opposite.
A judicial process of 6 million people. LOLS! If you are ready to accept that, then how come to refuse to accept what the people say here. If it is left for the people to decide, what about these hundred plus people throwing shame at the authorities and only and few other trolls judging otherwise. You do need some kind of treatment, don’t you?
If you are giving the example of dogs as gangs of person (like your other pathetic analogies), then you also give that “gang of three dogs” the right to appeal to prove that they acted in self-defence and that the decision of the authorities was a shame in the name of justice. Can you try to see the right here, despite my suspicion that you are not capable of it.
Sigh.. you make me sad Mr Dempsey.
1) 600,000 is not 6 million, please read closely if you intend to insult somebody.
2)If you go to other sites there are numerous supporters for the actual truth (go here and read you fool, do some research once in your life- http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/austin/social-media-uproar-regarding-pit-bulls)
3) Mr Dempsey, I know I defined “bias” somewhere in here, please try to learn a little about it. You state that there are so many people here throwing shame at the authorities, well if you understand what bias is then you must know that what you just said is completely biased. Of course people on this site, reading JUST YOUR BIAS CRAP are going to be thinking that’s the truth and then throw shame around at the authorities: because you’re throwing shame at the authorities you nitwit. Did you go to college? High school? Anything? THINK before you write. duh!
Don’t be sad Pizza boy. Control your mood.
1. No difference if 6 people, if 6 thousand, or 6 billion. The reasoning remains the same. Insulting somebody? Look who’s talking? LOLS! You started it and now you whining. Such a shame!
2. read your own link and then look at yourself in mirror Mr. Grady. the very firs comment I see is literally mocking at you. It reads:
“I am a volunteer with Austin Animal Center and I have heard all about this case. This article is incorrect on several levels. Grant’s dog’s were on leash, the other dog was not. The unleashed dog (the lab, other sources report the dog as a terrier) attacked the pit bulls, and the pit bulls did not retaliate until then. None of the pit bulls bit anyone, and there were witnesses available who told animal control officers that. Austin Animal Center DOES NOT have an animal behaviorist or even a trainer (I wish we did), and the dogs were ONLY euthanized because it was court ordered; many staff members were unhappy about the decision. Lastly, two of these dogs were emotional support dogs. As an owner of an emotional support dog, these dogs CAN NOT be aggressive in any way. Not only that, their owners depend on them intensely. To have an emotional support animal, you have to have a letter from a mental health professional stating that you NEED those dogs. The only reason I did not taken my life is because of my emotional support dog. This is a fine example of what irrational pit bull fear mongering does–literally kills and rips apart families.”
So your own source is slapping your face. Still got time to hide in the pizza box. What do you say?
3. I graduated successfully, so I write. You do pizzas because you dropped out as you were too dumb to write, isn’t it? So who wants your crappy definitions. Bake them in your puizzas. That is only way people wil buy them. LOLS
yes Mr Dempsey, I see that graduated from some college in Pakistan. Congrats. I graduated from the University of Texas as my undergrad in economics and then I graduated from Texas A&M under Econometrics. Still think that I deliver pizza? I’m not a stupid person Mr Dempsey. I will not release any information that will condemn my family to death threats as the victim and Animal Shelter have been getting. That is the seriousness of the matter. Things that you are saying online are angering people to the point where someone might get hurt and that saddens me. It saddens me that you don’t seem to care about that or don’t show it. I wish you would just go to that link and read more than one person’s opinion. Open your mind to not just what Mr Grant says is the truth, but formulate from research, as I have, your own facts. Don’t be blinded by one person’s opined blog, such as this, spread around and find the truth.
I damn care wherever you got your graduation – and it’s none of your concern where I got my degree from. I don’t believe in degrees. So don’t publicize yourself by telling what you did and didn’t.
Angering people? Goodness, look who is talking? You came here to this forum with all the shit and I can’t allow this. I could simply have asked for your comments to be blocked. But I didn’t because I wanted to answer your cheap attempts of justifying murder simply because its “official” and has the city government’s seal. No seal, no documentation is bigger than humanity. One man’s voice, one man’s pain does matter. What the court did was a nightmare. Today it happened to Grant; tomorrow it may happen to another citizen – and as we speak – this shit is happening right in Texas (expected another story soon on this forum; though I hope you never return here).
People who threaten the other dog’s owner are wrong. I have said and keep saying that these are accidents that happen; no one is to blame in accidents but those so-called authorities who impose themselves on the parties involved, siding with one and victimizing the other. People don’t have the right to threaten the abusers but they do have the right to express their concern and protest against injustice.
Well, john grady brings up an interesting point though ernest. It says at http://digitaljournal.com/user/929975 that you are based in peshawar, pakistan… I mean that’s a long ways from austin, texas. How did you hear about this story? How did you interview chris? And simply put, our laws here are different than in pakistan, how can you relate? There are laws in pakistan that are towards women that we wouldn’t do even to our dogs, and I don’t see how you could say anything about our laws; that you don’t live here says something as well.
With due respect Jack, do you live in the 21st century? Well, I do. US and Pakistan are so far, aren’t they? Then how come we are interacting like this in seconds? It’s almost funny.
Anyway, to answer your very relevant questions, I am an animal rights activist and a writer/editor for a number of American and other international publications. On facebook I am member of several animal rights groups and dog supporters. I have been doing stories on dog rescues, animal abuse, and other related issues for a year now and I get dozens of links as well as notifications from facebook friends about animal rights, particularly dog stories daily. My media postings have led to saving lives of individual dogs and funding for constructing no kill dog shelters in at least two places. So would you still wonder how I do all these stories?
Oh, I forot to mention, I use email, chat messengers, and/or phone directly to talk to sources about the stories. Hope that clears your confusion.
We live in a global village. No?
Well, yes but the fact is is that you don’t live here and you don’t know the laws of this city, probably not even of this state. I can’t trust someone that is trying to justify justice somewhere in not their own country (that would be enough) but in a country that hold honor killings– women are killed for marrying without their father’s blessings, killed for seeking divorce and women are killed when they are victims to rape.
First, I don’t need your trust.
Secondly, I don’t have to live in a place to know its laws. I know Ohio has abolished breed specific legislation earlier this year. I wonder if you knew that (until now as i spoke of it). So do I live in Ohio? I wonder what kind of a world you people live in? Interesting observation – in the same comment you also claim knowledge of my country’s crimes involving women victims. Do you live here? Real funny!
For these crimes you mention, I absolutely condemn that, including the horrid blasphemy law and discriminatory laws against minorities. And I write against them on various forums. Something bad is bad whether it happens in any country, any state, any place. I am glad the medieval BSL is not here so we are spared one horror at least. And our cops usually don’t bust in houses, killing people’s pets and harassing them while responding to complaints (though our military is notorious for such acts).
But I personally don’t believe in political boundaries. I am a follower of the great Thomas Paine who said “My country is the world and my religion is to do good.”
You ask what world we live in, and that’s it, you don’t know. You can read about ohio on wikipedia but you don’t live here and you are not familiar with our laws, just as you state that I am not familiar with yours. Though I don’t agree a lot of what is going on, I do know that some writer from Pakistan does not know what happened because he can read and owns a computer. You personally can not go to the courthouse and you personally can not read the police report and so what you say is just hearsay. I feel that if you are going to write something like this then you should be able to accept that there are critics to every side of the story. I see that when people bring up their critical views, you just want to shut them down (though you say you can block people, that would just show guilt). What I am trying to say is that you don’t see writers of the kxan news story insulting their readers because that would be unprofessional.
For the record, I had written a couple other posts which many of them were taken off my ernest dempsey, which is close to admitting guilt. Many of those posts I had stated that dempsey can go on wikipedia and read all the news he wants but the fact is that he doesn’t live here. He can not go read the court documents nor can he go read the police reports and therefore all that he is saying here is hearsay. He has an opinion and I hope that people reading his personal article realizes that it is just his opinion and not the facts. Dempsey lives in Pakistan, and though I have no problem with that fact alone I do have a problem with him fighting for justice in an unamerican way— Though I don’t blame him because he is not an American and he just doesn’t our culture and laws. If he wants to fight for justice I think his country could use help much, much more.
Mr. L, I simply can’t help laughing at you. Fighting for justice in “unamerican way”. LOLS! So now I have to wreck my brains on trying to figure out what are the “american” and “unamerican” ways to fight for justice. Oh boy! You really have a problem with my being Pakistani, don’t you.
“Hearsay” – oh, just like honor killings and cruelty to women are hearsay to you. So by your reasoning, no American should write an opinion piece about these issues because they don’t live in Pakistan, they can’t check the court records, or read police reports. Plain ridiculous! Just come off it Mr. L.
As a writer, I enjoy the freedom to write about anything anywhere and express my thoughts. It is the true spirit of democracy that knows no political boundaries. Those who try to confine people to regions are .. well, I don’t want to use any term of insult, but they are just in dire need of better education.
You are insulting me saying that I can’t rule about your country and then in the next sentence you will state that you have right to talk about any other country. So which is it?
You are being unprofessional. If you expect yourself to be a professional writer then you need to learn how to handle criticism. If you just deter readers from what you write by insulting them then you are going to severely limit your audience to only extremists. And if you are fine with that then you don’t want to be a famous journalist like it says in your bio. Walter Cronkite, Jack Laurence, and Roger Ebert did not insult their critics. They took it to improve themselves and it looks tacky if they didn’t.
Criticism is okay; stupidity can be tolerated to some degree; but what you have started exhibiting is called “double standards” and that is something I can’t put up with. You have a problem when I write about an issue in America but you want to reserve to yourself the right to talk about me, my country, and my professionalism. Well, I am not buying it.
I don’t remember the last time I cared about how many people read my writings. With time, however, I have only found a larger audience, more social media friends, and more writing opportunities. So don’t try to pretend you are a mentor who can help me “improve”. Just focus on improving yourself. It will help.
mmm, I don’t know dempsey… It does seem weird that the writer would take something so personal. Aren’t writers of news stories suppose to be indifferent? Well I guess since this is an opinioned that you could do that. But still, both of you just keep insulting each other…
News story and Op-eds are different things. As an op-ed writer, I am not indifferent and you surely can read it in the post. I am critical of the authorities’ decision and then imposing it without the right to appeal. About insulting, well he was just getting weird, trying to sound like a researcher; so I had to challenge him on that. I wonder whatever happened to his research when his own suggested source turned out as a source of embarrassing truth against his position.
On his behalf, the consensus on that website does indeed go along with his story but the news article also is saying different things than your own. I guess the facts are not in yet.
Different things because quoting face-saving reports from the authorities that murdered the dogs. What “facts” are in such cases is always subject to question. But no story is denying the fact that a right to appeal the death sentence was not granted – hence my opinion that it was a murder.
Once again, put your money where your mouth is! The link leads to the memo from the animal services department regarding this incident where they conveniently omit any information about which dog was on leash and which dog charged which group of on leash dogs. It has nothing to do with another lawsuit or his dogs. So, where did you get this story? Also, Mr. Grant is using a non-profit group to aid in his legal battle. So, I suppose they’re all in on this ridiculous conspiracy you’ve uncovered?
A court reporter will report what happens in and around the court. But this story is narrated at the location where the incident happened. We don’t have reason enough to tell what a court reporter says about the events of the incident. He/she will tell the way it was documented by police and animal control staff and the judge – in other words, the authorities. But authorities can and do play as a single team. Does that mean the individual’s voice is suppressed by a team because the team works for the state, and “is” the state, in fact? I don’t think so. The owner of pit bulls has a right to tell his story without other voices muddling it. Since the public records are there and the other side is free to tell his/her side of the story, there should be no problem. And in this “opinion-ed” piece of mine, I choose to call this killing “murder” because the dogs’ owner was not given a chance to appeal the decision. What kind of justice is this? Killing dogs immediately before an appeal could be made clearly means they didn’t want to give them a chance of a fair trial. The dogs should have been carefully assessed by an independent canine behavior expert, not by one who works for the city – i.e. part of the team that had already decided to kill the dogs. It was a murder in cold blood, a shameless one not only f the dogs but of the civil rights of its owners.
As far as I know, there was no court reporter present. But there WAS an eyewitness and it would be amazing if you could find that person!
First, it is not “opinion-ed” it is “opined”.
Second, When dogs (property) does harm to a PERSON and/or that person’s property then actions need to be taken to make sure that this never happens again.
Now, a certified animal behaviorist(she was proven many times to be certified in the court hearing on Sept. 28th and Chris Grants attorney attested it as such) had attempted to certify whether the dogs were able to be re-homed the dogs made continuous advances of violence towards her (this was over a 3 week period of trying to verify it) And thus she had to OFFICIALLY state that the dogs were just too violent to even be re-homed. http://austintexas.gov/sites/default/files/files/Animal_Services/ASOmemoReGrantCaseOct2012.pdf
Under Chapter 822.003 of the Texas State Law dealing with Dog Bites, because the dogs caused serious bodily damage to the owner and his property, the dogs were euthanized WITHOUT a chance of appeal. This is to protect the rest of the world from them. http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/Locations/Laws/TexasStateLaw.pdf
Third, though you may site that you are just stating that you are just stating “opinion-ed” thoughts of your own, you are actually not. When you state things like “were taken to a park in Austin” (when it was actually a public parking lot of a commercial zone at 2222 and jester blvd) and “When the police arrived on the scene with an ambulance, Grant lay on the ground having an asthma attack while he had secured his pit bulls and the other person had also got his dog under control” you are, for the first one, giving wrongful facts (you’re openly lying and not apart of the, I’m-giving-my-opinion part) and for the second quote, you are actually committing libel by bringing the victim’s name through the mud. What you are doing is actually open to a lawsuit and if you are not careful could bring one to you.
With these so-called “research links” of yours, you fall way short of making sense by repeating your assumptions of “dangerous dogs” mantra. What is an Op-Ed, I think you better find the definition and then paste the link here and argue. I say it’s Op-Ed because I give my opinion about the injustice done as stated in the story narrated by the owner of the pit bulls. The available info is quoted as source and linked, and if anyone wants to go to court against me for libel, they are most welcome. Let’s see whose definition of libel and op-ed holds there. And also, be careful in your comments as your making claims about the pit bull owner, me, and others, you are in fact committing libel (perhaps feeling safe for being under a pseudonym). Better learn a little about publishing before going haywire.
And you say “protect the rest of the world from them.” That is for the world to decide what they perceive as threat, not you or any municipality judge or any single person or institution.In my opinion, the world will be a safer place without breedists. So how about putting them to sleep for a safer world?
Unfortunately for you Mr Dempsey, those “so-called ‘research links’” were stamped by approval from your own state government. I further continue my point with an example: Consider, for a second, that I say to everyone that 1+3 = 5. I tell everyone this, publish it under official educational purposes and then state that “it is only my opinion”. Well, Mr Dempsey, that is wrong, because we know as a society that 1+3 is actually to be 4. To relate this to what you were saying, when you said it happened at a park, well sir, you are wrong. And now you look like a fool, maybe for now only to me, but soon once more reports come in, to everybody, which means noone will believe your nonsense in the future. About whether I am committing libel or not, the answer is, I am not, for it is only libel when it is not true. I have not lied on any of my posts or opined about anything, and have only simply stated the facts from which I have read, and heard at the court hearing (thus, they can be proven by simply going there for reference).
UNFORTUNATELY again for you Mr Dempsey, the rest of the world did decide. For you and everyone else put the people in office to carry out their judgement for you and because they followed the law, they are being scrutinized for it. And for your “breedist” comment, you realize that goes both ways. Though I have not sent my opinions or comments on this forum on my opinion of this you have obviously stated yours — you must love pit bulls and only pit bulls.
Your attempted logic is, at best, a joke. Mathematical laws and numbers are globally accepted. They are what we might call a “universal truth”. But assessment of 3 pit bulls in a dog pound in Austin is not a globally accepted fact. It is a dictatorial decision imposed on the world. I will look like a fool to you because you are actually projecting your stupidity on me and others here.
What is true or not true is not for you to decide. You are just stating your opinion here, according to – what you say about yourself – the available info from “official” sources. And others have all the right to accept or reject it. So let the readers decide who is what. Don’t try to emulate the judge who ordered the pit bulls to death by listening to the “official” side whether Texan or some other state.
I love all dogs and animals and have written in their support, not just for pit bulls; but I don’t welcome those bipedal chimps who start demonizing a breed and giving blanket freedom to others for victimizing them.
So my advice to you Mr. Grady is not to waste time in joining this anti-pit bull propaganda. It will be better for you to just go and sell your pizzas.
Again, Mr Dempsey… those “so-called ‘research links’” were stamped by approval from your own state government. They have been agreed by your peers and your government (the same that agree that the constitution of the United States is real) to be of genuine content. Let me state again so there is no confusion. T.h.e.y a.r.e r.e.a.l . I understand that you don’t know what an official document is, because well, I don’t see you putting any down yourself, simply just one man is telling you what is side of the truth is and you being the chimp in scribbling it all down for a quick buck and publicity. You simply disgust me Mr Dempsey. The judge didn’t stamp those because that’s not his job (ever heard of the judicial process?) and so I’m not emulating the judge with these documents, I’m simply stating what is written on them.
Let me put it in another way, if I put down on paper, “Ernest Dempsey is an idiot” it would be my opinion only and nothing would come of it. But if I stamp that official Texas Law stamp on it, well, then we make it official, don’t we?
Ok, you want my opinion on which dog breed is the worst? In my opinion, the dog breed that is worst are those that attack and harm other people. Get it? I don’t care what breed they are, whether they are poodles, chihuahuas, dalmatians, labs, etc etc, if they attack something or someone else, that is when we take action. YOU are bringing up the “demonizing a breed” you hate monger. I want the truth not some idiot spreading lies.
When you say some idiot spreading lies, the first one of this kind is none but you. So your writing on paper “Mr. Dempsey is an idiot” holds no more weight than me writing a paper “Mr. Grady is a shame”.
I know about official documents and I know what bribes and quackeries go into preparing them. That is why there is a process of appeal, if your retarded brain is able to understand this simple fact. When you give no right to appeal, you are proving that what you did was unfair, unjust, an abuse.
Of course I disgust you. I disgust all those who lack reason and follow “official” seals and links like a slob. making quick buck? Well I suspect that you are trying to publicize your pizzas here. better take them elsewhere; cz the way you make yourself sound, nobody is goanna buy them.
Mr Dempsey, are you hitting the bottle? You seem to be slurring your last sentence, what is cz?
Wait, you “know about official documents and [you] know what bribes and quackeries go into preparing them.” … And sir, how do you know? Besides the tv stations and the action packed movies, how do you know? If that is the only reason why you think there should be appeals, then you don’t understand the judicial process Mr Dempsey. Bribes? “Quackeries”? What are you thinking? You sound like a “quackster” yourself. What makes you think that a simple and very small case such as this would contain such things? And who would do that? I mean, c’mon Mr Dempsey I would think such a high caliber writer such as yourself would really know why we have the appeals process. (If you were Mr Grant’s lawyer and you had said that to the judge you would have been laughed out of the courthouse) C’mon, use some logic. The appeals process is for discrepancies in the due process of the law. Now, I’m not saying that no judge has ever taken a bribe, because I’m sure they have, but this is a small case and it’s simply not worth the judge losing his job over what meager money would be given to him to order the destruction of the dogs. It’s just so stupid of you to say that and just shows your true ignorance in the matter.
Awesome! You are showing your core idiocy very quickly. I am enjoying this, seeing how you leap about – trying to define things and making claims and then fleeing them to make more assumptions.
I don’t call myself a high-calibre writer. maybe you have some class in there – high or low or whatever. But I am just a writer. And since you have now leapt to hide under the “reason to appeal” sheet, perhaps you would like to tell me what those “discrepancies” mean and what they indicate. I suppose those “discrepancies” if detected would mean the decision was not fair. Boy, am I right or am I right? So again a question of fairness – in other words justice.
A small case? LOLS! For the past one hour, you have been commenting on this small case, “biased” writer’s post which is not a NYT story. Why would a judge not be tempted in taking a bribe, especially when he knows the “official” docs won’t show it. Not saying whether this judge did or not, but the possibility is very much there (and should be investigated).
So where do you mean to run and hide now Mr. Grant? In your pizza box? But is that large enough to cover your Appalachian size ignorance?
I’m not enjoying this at all you imbecile. This is someone’s life you are messing with. This is someones well-being and name you are bringing through the mud. This isn’t some joke that you just make up because you believe Mr Grant. I’m done talking to you. I apologize, I didn’t read the rest of what you said, after what you wrote about you enjoying what you were doing is enough for me to end this. No matter what you may believe, I have my beliefs and you have yours. But, when this comes down to the truth I hope you come back to all of what you have said here and reevaluate who you trust and what you believe to be true in the future. It isn’t a joke, Mr Dempsey, to lie when it brings pain and suffering to another and I saw much pain and suffering from the victim at the court hearing and my prayers go out to them. Mr Grant, if you are reading, I am sorry for your loss as well. I wish it didn’t come down to your dogs being put down but I feel that it was negligence from you that caused it, not the courts decision.
Well, I honestly don’t care if you enjoy it or not Mr Pizza. And don’t project your shitty attitude on me. You are playing with someone’s life and justifying the killings and mock justice. I am glad you will be leaving this forum. I truly you don’t return and keep selling your stupid pizzas. Of course you and I have our own beliefs and our opinions. Could your imbecile brain not pick it earlier.
I didn’t even name the other party and I never said anything against him cz I’ll never want anything bad happen to anyone. My op-ed post raises the question about a judicial murder – something you tried to justify all along. And I don’t apologize because I stand by my words. Now go sell your pizzas!
Ernest is right. He was addressing how the dogs were treated following the incidents narrated by authorities. It is that treatment before an incident (the owner’s responsibility for how he or she cares for the dog and how the dog is treated by authorities that have everything to do with the outcome. A dog that is particularly dangerous, and raised without proper care that enhances aggression, is like a dangerous person on the loose, needing some sort of restrictions through special pounds or other means. A dog that is captured for being aggressive, and so charged by authorities, deserves a hearing and appeal. People get them because there can be falsehoods. Putting down the dog before that appeal is unjust. One other thing, there have been stories also about many of the people (not most, many) who own pit bulls. In other words, why do some people select this breed and others that have certain breed-specific behaviors? Another thing that is important here: I see a great outcry about mistreatment of dogs. Would people here do the same thing for homeless people with person-specific behaviors, i.e. mental health problems? The problem is these people, the mentally ill and sometimes aggressive, are sometimes shot by police, killed for fun, mocked and left abandoned. I am personally for caring for all life, so how looking at this incident, and others like this, and considering not just pit bull issues but how we treat each other and how we must be concerned about justice for all living things.
I believe Carol that you are confusing the boundary between humans and animals. You can’t just state a fact about a human being shot and expect the same treatment to go to an animal, because an animal is someone’s property. When that property does harm to a PERSON and/or that person’s property then actions need to be taken to make sure that this never happens.
Now, a certified animal behaviorist(she was proven many times to be certified in the court hearing on Sept. 28th) had attempted to certify whether the dogs were able to be re-homed the dogs made continuous advances of violence towards her (this was over a 3 week period of trying to verify it) And thus she had to OFFICIALLY state that the dogs were just too violent to even be re-homed. http://austintexas.gov/sites/default/files/files/Animal_Services/ASOmemoReGrantCaseOct2012.pdf
Under Chapter 822.003 of the Texas State Law dealing with Dog Bites, because the dogs caused serious bodily damage to the owner and his property, the dogs were euthanized WITHOUT a chance of appeal. http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/Locations/Laws/TexasStateLaw.pdf
Carol is not confusing anything; you are trying to – and failing in confusing others who see the obvious injustice here. Your so-called “certified animal behaviorist” will certainly be questioned in the suit seeking justice against this judicial murder. On what basis she marked them dangerous – the exact details will need to be revealed and these before a panel of neutral investigators and dog behavior experts.
An animal is somebody’s property – well that is exactly why Grant needs to seek justice for what was done to him. Not giving a chance of appeal is added injustice and must be challenged.
I agree that the certified animal behaviorist will be brought to question if the suit goes farther, but they will see what the courts saw before; that she was in the right. Note though, that she was on nobody’s side and was a neutral investigator when investigating into their behavior from the beginning.
Great revealing Mr. Grady! “They will see what the courts saw before”. Well well well, somebody is predicting future and making claims now. Or is that another sign leaking through your idiocy and showing that the “official” is a single team. Whether she was on anybody’s side is not for you to decide. An independent investigator can decide it, or a skilled lawyer get it out of her during cross examination. YOu seem to be too eager to speak for everybody. But why? Only to justify the killing of three dogs. Pathetic!
I read this article over the weekend threw facebook. I even sent a email to the courthouse judge who was involved with this case. Not a rude or cruel email just a heads up that God has a place in heaven for those who do his work. Also I signed the petition against these three pitbulls being put to sleep. I wanted to follow up on this story, to come to find out they were put down?! Injustice. Complete BULLSHIT! This pisses me off. Those could have been MY three pits (i do have three pits). I always have their collars on. Always have their leashes. I know the crap that people give me BECAUSE i have three pits!! Its wrong…
To the mother of these pits, Im sorry for your lost… please know you have had support throughout these hard times. And you will be in my prayers.
This is horrible, we are having the same problem here in Fort Worth except our 2 pit bulls didn’t attack anyone. Our dogs got into the backyard of our neighbor and she has lied that she was “fearful” of them. They have ruled them “Dangerous Dogs” because of this. Also, the city of fort worth won’t let us appeal so we are stuck with this decision from the municipal court judge Benita Falls Harper. We have a website where you can find all of the information and sign our petition: saveliloandstitch.com
Your dogs are called Lilo and Stitch? That’s awesome! I watch that show with my kids
Good luck sir with your case!
I first heard of this story this weekend and was outraged. I started looking into the facts because I was compiling all of this information to send to a few contacts I have, that could have put this story out there. As I was e-mailing, I started going through the police report and finding other stories that were not matching up. I pulled my e-mails and apologized to the contacts, siting I had not gotten my facts straight and was now getting several versions of this story. These are the facts I found:Chris admits to not having his dogs on either their leads or their leashes. The man who was attacked, was taking an evening stroll with his older female mut and Chris’s dogs rushed them, not the other way around. Chris had zero control over his brood of dogs-none. His dogs tried to rip the mutt in half, degloving her hind leg, which is why the dog did not go into quarentine:she was already in the hospital, under observaton for a traumatic injury. Mr. Dempsey, your article is flawed, poorly written and is devoid of facts. Austinites who have their heads somewhere else and refuse to look this case or prior cases up, you have been duped. I don’t believe Chris did this maliciously but he was NEGLIGENT. That is how his dogs ended up euthanized. Imagine, if you will, taking a lovely summer evening walk with your dog (s), kids, kids in a stroller and happening upon this situation? Austin is a dogtown, we all are very aware of our responsibilities as dog owners people. Chris’s dogs attacked the victim, not the other way around, He has been in trouble before, for an attack and it is the City’s reponsibilty to make sure someone does not lose their life the next time. They had a month to hammer this out and he did not. It is disturbing that the people commenting are not at all concerned that this is not a truthful account of what happened that late September 6th, late evening. I would recommend you look into the police report. Oh, and Mr. Dempsey, the Court reporter, types in everything that is said in court, as in, the case, as in, Chris’s statements as to his version of what occured that night. That’s the job of a court reporter just to be clear. It is a transcript of the incident to stenograph every word said in court-even the words that will not be used for records. I beleive that report says everything. I love Austin, I really do but man, making the victim of a crime is something I am sensitive to and advocate for. If Chris was trying to train those dogs to be service dogs for Veterans, I think that was wonderful and it is horrific that those dogs had such a tragic end to their lives but what about the man and his dog who were attacked? Because that is what happened. Read the report. I will say it again, negligence.
Don’t believe anything this legal system says now cuz Civil rights were possibly violated and that’s what matters now. 3 animals lost their lives and I don’t take that as lightly as the so called legal system does. We will just have to wait and see what happens. Hope justice prevails.
Here are FACTS: Grant’s dog were unleashed and they were the aggressors, running up and attacking the LEASHED dog and it’s owner. Almost a year ago (Nov 2011), these same 3 pitbulls, belonging to Mr.Grant, attacked a woman and her small dog doing serious bodily injury to the woman. His dogs should have been euthanized back then. Mr. Grant is running a scam to collect money. His version of the story is entirely wrong.
Funny how this money doesn’t go to him but to the Lexus Project. Also what happened is no longer relevant. Now the question is whether there were Civil Rights Violations in this case so go spew your garbage all you want because due process was denied and the facts will never be able to be judged because the dogs are dead now. So all you are doing is spewing irrelevant crap anyway. Chris does not get this money, what part of that can’t you understand! But, if they win this case and procedural process was violated, I hope they get a bunch of money!
The law states that because the damage his dogs had done were so severe that caused severe bodily harm to the victim and his dog that Mr Grant had his right to appeal revoked and that the dogs were to be euthanized WITHIN 10 days. That they did it in the next minute or within the next 9 days 23 hours 59 minutes would have been within their legal right to do so. Chris Grant has nothing going for him in this lawsuit because he was told several times throughout the court hearing of all of this. This is all stated here: http://austintexas.gov/sites/default/files/files/Animal_Services/ASOmemoReGrantCaseOct2012.pdf and here: http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/Locations/Laws/TexasStateLaw.pdf
Though I would love to agree with you Bill, the actual fact was that all dogs were off their leashes, even the one attacked.
I love how people come onto a site just to spew hate, and lies. They have no true facts, they weren’t there at the time of the incident, and cannot know what really went down, unless they have talked to the person who has experienced the unjustified acts of the authorities. All the information that has been sent out from the Authorities are either a Lie or Truth. Until Chris Grant comes forward and says something. Oh Wait HE DID! His conversation with the lexus project and him are confidential, and spreading lies and vicious comments are childish. Just because you hate or dislike pit bulls or him, shouldn’t be made known to the public.
Basically: If you don’t have nothing nice to say, then you shouldn’t say it. Not everything that the authorities and media writes or says is true. I will take Grant’s Word over the authorities and media any day of the week.
Because of haters like you, Proving our points everyday and spewing out rumors. Keyword “RUMORS” And “LIES” that you get from cover up reports.
and for those who are saying that one of Chris Grants dogs bit a woman’s ear off, Shush up. I read through every dog attack news archive i could find, and the only one I found was a woman from mexico, had her ear lobe partially bitten off by a boxer, while visiting her Boyfriend in “springfield”. Nothing in Austin about a woman’s ear lobe or attack by Chris Grants dogs. The only thing that came up was this case.
And before we go spewing off with hatred at me, For saying something that I actually did research on, because I am an Advocate of sorts. I do research and footwork before I say anything. And have an email for people to contact me with their stories, of lost/found pets or asking me to post up articles about abuse cases to help the animals get of those kinds of places.
Majority of this article that has been written, was information gathered from CHRIS, and the facebook page. And from what I have been told there was no court reporter there, there was a lack of evidence, and the statements were lost. The witness and chris was ignored by the judge.
Furthermore, the people who are coming on here slandering Chris, It makes me think that they are part of this whole crooked authority… If that is the case, People will not listen and they will keep fighting and protesting against this travesty that took place.
I dont think its a rumor when its documented:
http://austintexas.gov/sites/default/files/files/Animal_Services/ASOmemoReGrantCaseOct2012.pdf
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/Locations/Laws/TexasStateLaw.pdf
http://www.scribd.com/doc/109026397/Letter-to-Vols-Oct-42012
http://www.co.travis.tx.us/health_human_services/pdfs/ch_52_animalcontrol_050315.pdf
Next time, do your research before looking like… well, before looking like you.
John Grady, why was there nothing done to the loose dog that ran over and started this mess? How is there one set of rules for the pit bulls and another for other dogs?
Those poor babies and their poor Mr. Grant! I’m sickened. I hate self righteous small dog owners that don’t train their dogs. They’re guilty of allowing their dogs to be vicious with other dogs, while big dogs take the blame for looking “scary”! They disgust me.
Man, you are ignorant. How can you blame a small dog in attacking three other dogs? The victim’s dog was torn to shreds and you are blaming that dog for this?
I will kill any *****er who tries to take my boy.
Many of you have expressed concerns about the austin dogs alleged previous history.
Lexus Project Post:
We are unaware of any specific incidents, nor is it relevant to the issue. The ultimate Guilt or innocence of the dogs is not the issue but rather the procedural deficiencies that form the basis of this civil rights violation. If it was not done in a constitutionally acceptable manner, and if they do not afford both procedural and substantive due process, it should not and cannot be tolerated. It is these issues we seek to redress and to prevent other people’s dogs from being illegally executed because the City of Austin has no respect for the Rule of Law.
Harmless? Your title says “harmless”.
Do you mean like a gun is harmless or a nuclear weapon is harmless?
Are you saying that Grant’s three dogs did NOT tear flesh off the other dog and his owner? Or are you saying that doesn’t constitute harm?
You say this is about “civil rights” and that whether the Grant was at fault is irrelevant so is it it also irrelevant that your title is a total lie?
You are pulling the same crap that the Lexus Project and the other dogcrazies are on FB: now that your initial tale of “oh the poor owner did nothing wrong” has been blown out of the water the new one is “my RIGHTS!!!”.
Truth is that Grant is primarily to blame for this incident and that the laws were followed. End of story.
A gun is absolutely harmless unless misused intentionally or accidentally; same goes for all other weapons, tools, and even human beings.
Now, when we talk about the details of the incident – which are disputed – a thorough investigation will have to establish what happened, in what sequence, and so on. Harm was done to the dog but it was an accident, and I have been saying this all along. You say Grant was to blame for it. I ask why? According to his side of the story – which was downplayed and rejected without reason or thought by pit bull halt haters – it was the owner’s dog that attack his dog. An animal control volunteer at the shelter states witnesses affirm Grant’s story and even some shelter officers are unhappy over the injustice done to the dog. So your claim that Grant was at fault is baseless.
About “civil right” point, that absolutely applies because Grant had the right not to accept the court’s decision and submit an appeal. he was denied that right and his dogs immediately killed without giving a chance to prove he was innocent. This is injustice and this is why I wrote about it choosing to call it murder – a judicial murder.
Dogs have instincts, just like humans, and they fight and injure – just like humans. But do you kill people when they hurt other people in a fight without establishing whose fault was it or whether the stronger person will keep hurting others also without provocation? This simply doesn’t make sense.
**** the JUDGE and any of you *****s that think these dogs deserved to die!!! They were on a leash. Any living thing if ATTACKED is going to defend themselves. END OF STORY!!! This jackass judge is friend with the owner of the dogs OFF a leash!!…No ticket..no fine…probably got a dinner and a round of golf out of it!!! How can he justify murdering Therapy Dogs?!?!? Vote him out…hell remove by force..isn’t that the Texas way!!!???
They deserved to die because they attacked and attempted to kill another living being.
Your post Tamara, is so full of unresearched statements it is pathetic. Chris told the judge his dogs were off leash, he lied to the public. The victim has a friend that is a judge not even in the area. His friend is not the judge in the case. The other owner’s dog had it’s leg amputated and he was cited for dog off leash. The dogs were only certified as therapy dogs through a click and pay website. So there a go!
the judge and the redneck are most out on the rednecks farm fighting other dog types and finger banging each others ******s. its a ******g joke Australia is becoming this way. all dogs are vicious if you torture and neglect them, instead of socialising as a puppy then its going to end bad. Just yesterday I was walking my old family red on one side of the street while a couple was walking a maltese shitzu, the shitzu was going crazy barking and schitzing it out of control at us it unreal my girl is only 9 months old and was excited to see another dog to play with we just kept walking, this shitzu thing somehow managed to slip out of its collar and came running over, These owners were lucky my girl was a little startled and somewhat scared of the crazy barking, she tried hiding behind my legs, I managed to keep the shitzu at bay by screeimg pretty loud Sit Down you vicous little cross breed designer dog mungrel bastard. the owners came running over the street and got it and said he is ok he wont bite his harmless, yet then they couldn’t control him and he got away. i said you might trust him but i don’t and after seeing a display like that he should have a muzzle on, your very lucky i didn’t just kick the little shit. Then I said that if your dog happened to bite my dog in a non playful way and without meeting before and my dog was to bite back and hurt it or even killing it then my dog would be confiscated and most probably be put down, I would be fined and you irresponsible owners of this mungrel will get over it and get another shitzu in a few weeks like nothing was wrong, its a disgrace the way purebred pitbulls are victimised like this. i think its a joke the way American staffs are in another class than american pitbulls, they are the same breed or dog. why are these judges and law officers not trying to do more to stop rapists or kiddy porn offeneders from repeat offenses by putting them down for what they do. *****g joke..
one thing they should get used to is that this breed will never be bred out of society because of people like me and you who think that these dogs should be able to talk they are that smart compared to other breeds.
We are all creatures of God and we all deserve a second chance!!!!!! It was very inhumane and wrong what they did to those poor doggies.